Diagon Alley-Hermiones parents

[bboy_mn]

No: HPFGUIDX 42496

--- In HPforGrownups at y..., "dragonettefish" <dragonettefish at y...> wrote:
> In the Chamber of Secrets in the chapter "At Flourish and Blotts" 
> Hermiones parents are with her in Diagon Alley. I was suprised at 
> this because they are muggles and I thought Diagon Alley was only 
> wizards.  I suppose that couldn't be true because Hogsmeade is the 
> only non-muggle community in Great Britian the book states but is 
> Hogsmeade considered a community? I got off track there! Sorry!  
> Anyways, I was wondering how Hermiones parents got to Diagon Alley. 
> It says in the COS "They said good-bye to the Grangers, who were 
> leaving the pub for the Muggle street on the other side..."  How did 
> they know the pub was there and how did they get into it because in 
> the first book it clearly states that Muggles could not see the pub? 
> I dont think you could go into something where all you could see is a 
> brick wall and if you could accidently walk in it wouldnt there be 
> lots of muggles doing just that? Thank you and I hope someone can 
> answer me with this frustrating question!
> 
> "dragonettefish"


bboy_mn Responds:
This may not answer you question 100% but I think it addresses it
pretty well.

This is cut and pasted from another post.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/message/42440

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>> Rosie continues:<<
On a related-sort-of note, you know where Mr Weasley (I think)
describes the security around the QWC in GOF, and says "there are some
places Muggles can't penetrate", making reference to Diagon Alley...
what does he mean by this?

He clearly can't mean they physically cannot enter at all, as Mr & Mrs
Weasley do. They can't enter without the help from a witch or wizard,
perhaps? Ideas?

--- bboy_mn responds: ---
Muggles can't 'penetrate' the cash vault at your local bank, but that
doesn't mean they can't get in.

Diagon Alley exists in an alternate physical reality. To my knowledge
there are only two/three ways to get into Diagon Alley. 1.) to find a
pub that can't be seen by muggles (Leaky Cauldron) and somehow get
inside it, and somehow get past Tom the proprietor, somehow get into
the back courtyard, somehow know which bricks to tap, and somehow have
enough magic that tapping those bricks opens the archway to Diagon
Alley. 2./3.) apparate/portkey into that magical physical space.

I think it's safe to say that getting into the cash vault at your
local bank would be easier.

Hermione, being a witch, brings here parents into Diagon Alley,
because she can see the Leaky Cauldron and knows how to open the
archway. Muggles aren't forbidden from being there, but the odds of
any muggles getting there without the direct help of a magic person is
almost impossible, so in that sense, muggles can't 'penetrate' the
'security' of Diagon Alley.

Note that even the magical Knight Bus stopped in the muggle street out
in front of the Leaky Cauldron.

Now the Quidditch World Cup took place in a Scottish moor which was a
camp ground owned and run by a muggle which while it took extreme and
unusual precaution to hide from the muggles, still existed in muggle
space.

Hogwarts and Hogsmead (and the Leaky Cauldron) exist in normal, or
mostly or partly in normal muggle physical reality/space but are
protected by various enchantments to keep muggles away. Personally, I
believe that Hogwarts and Hogsmead exist in both muggle physical
reality/space and magical physical reality/space; sort of on the edge,
existing in both places. So those places have a 'gateway' into them
that allows you to enter from muggle space. While you can get into
Hogwarts and Hogsmead by walking in from muggle space, you can't walk
into the Forbidden Forest from muggle space. The Forbidden Forest is a
part of Hogwarts/Hogsmead that exists only in magical space (my opinion).

MY GREAT THEORY-
I believe that the archway behind the Leaky Cauldron, that leads into
Diagon Alley is not an archway at all but a magical transportation
device. It is a portal or portway in the same sense as a portkey. I
don't think that Diagon Alley actually exists in London. I don't think
it is a secret space hidden behind the Leaky Cauldron. ALthough, the
Leaky Cauldron is in London. At best Diagon Alley exists in a separate
unique reality of it's own and the archway is a transportation device
that takes you between these alternate realities.

That's my story and I'm sticking to it.
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