The Marauders Vs. The Trio-who is who?

grey_wolf_c greywolf1 at jazzfree.com
Mon Aug 12 22:36:21 UTC 2002


No: HPFGUIDX 42533

--- In HPforGrownups at y..., "bugaloo37" <crussell at a...> wrote:
> I know that this has been discussed before- but I would like to bring 
> the topic up again.  IMO, the trio (Harry, Ron, and Hermione) can be
> considered the equivalent of the Marauders ( James, Sirius, and 
> Remus).  With Harry, of course, taking the position of his father, 
> James.  The argument then can be made about the other two positions 
> mentioned.  IMO, I believe that Ron is the equivalent of Sirius.  My 
> argument for this is based on their similarities in character- high-
> tempered-prone to act before thinking, but completely loyal to their 
> friends.  IMO, I also believe that Hermione is the equivalent of 
> Remus.  My argument for that consists of the intelligence both of 
> these characters possess.  Also, they did seem to make a connection 
> to each other on some level in PoA.  Hermione and Remus seem to be 
> more logic oriented-but still able to act quickly when called upon to 
> do so.  But what about Pettigrew- who is his equivalent?  Are we 
> suppose to see Pettigrew as a hanger-on who was subsequently allowed 
> into the Marauders?  Who among the Trio's contemporaries can be seen 
> in this light?  Neville? (who Hermione champions constantly) Creevy? 
> (who seems to worship Harry).  I would like to hear some opinions.  
> Bugaloo37

Well, since it's been some time since I last remember this topic, I 
don't think it's a bad idea to bring it up again myself. As the saying 
goes, old ones are the best...

Unfortunately, my views in this topic are very negative: I don't really 
see the similarities between the triad and the marauders. Cheking then 
one by one:

James played, according to JKR, chaser, not seeker, as Harry does, and 
still is the closest similarity. James was a very good student, while 
Harry is a "C" student: has some trouble passing his exams and is very 
indifferent about studying. I don't picture him as someone capable of 
learning to be an animagi ilegally, not because he lacks the courage, 
but because he lacks the dedication. True enough he doesn't really need 
it, but neither did the marauders.

Sirius has the same problem when compared to Ron, only even more 
accentuated. We don't really know what Sirius did in his free time, but 
he was as good a student as James or even better, and Ron is the sort 
of student that's always in the brink of disaster. I cannot really 
compare their respectives temperaments, but I don't think that Ron 
would play the prank on Malfoy. 

Hermione is the one that is most close to one of the marauders, if we 
assume that Lupin learned all he knows about DADA at school (although I 
believe he went hunting for dark creatures since he couldn't get a 
regular job, and got a training at the job). Note, however, that Lupin 
is *not* an animagus, thus, there is no real canon to back-up the "he 
was a good student" theory. Hermione, on the other hand is *the* 
student of the triad, but doesn't carry the anguish or the doubts Lupin 
does. Lupin has been afraid of himself and of loosing control all his 
life, which just doesn't happen in Hermione's case: she's believes she 
can solve any problem (normally by checking books at the library).

Finally, when you combine the pair James-Sirius, you get a pair very 
much like "Forge and Greg", more than the pair Harry-Ron, and the 
circunstances that revolve around the entire marauder group are 
extremely different from those of the triad: the worst the marauders 
ever faced was a werewolf, while the triad has faced Voldemort, 
Basilisks, 100 Dementors, giant spiders, dragons, Voldemort again, etc. 
which makes a difference right there.

Still, as I said, this thread is an old-timer, and I'm looking forward 
to other people's opinions, since there is *no* "right" interpretation 
here: either you see similarities or you don't. And strangely, we tend 
to see different similarities or differences.

Hope that helps,

Grey Wolf






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