Latin in Harry Potter--Arabella Figg (again)
alhewison
Ali at zymurgy.org
Wed Aug 14 20:11:13 UTC 2002
No: HPFGUIDX 42632
Aha! I couldn't resist a Latin argument again
To follow on from the discussion of the meaning of Arabella:
" Of Scottish origin and uncertain etymology. It probably represents
an alteration of An(n)abella"
Annabel: "...probably an altered form of Amabel, an obsolete French
name derived from Latin amabilis "lovable"
Quotes are from Oxford University Press book of "Babies Names". I
think this just confirms what Eloise has already said. The dictionary
goes on to state that the Latinised form "Annabella is "influenced by
Latin bella
beautiful"
Eloise said:-
<<<In any case, as I have pointed out, Arabella already has a
perfectly good Latin derivation, meaning amiable (which in itself
could be used to back up the Sirius/Arabella theory, or to back up
the 'Mrs Figg is really a lovely young witch who's polyjuiced/aged
herself into an old woman' theory). It just seems a bit much to then
go and work out a secondary derivation.>>>
Well, here is a back up to the polyjuiced/ aged potion Arabella
theory, which has probably be used by someone somewhere before, but I
haven't seen it (so apologies if this is a repeat):-
There is apparently an English word "fig" meaning dress. To "fig out"
is to dress up. This word is a variation of an obsolete word "feague"
which comes from German, which if I understand my Concise Oxford
dictionary correctly means "Fake". If JKR has indeed deliberately
chosen Mrs Figg's name, then this is (IMHO) very strong evidence
towards the Arabella "in mufti" theory.
Eloise again :
My 'A' Level Latin's rusty.
Me too, but it's still like red rag to a bull when someone brings it
up!
Eloise:
<<<I also wonder about this implication that Latin derivations are
better than derivations from other languages (which is the
implication of my original question of why does everything have to
have a Latin root?). My Anglo-Saxon roots (if such they are) are
bristling. (Can roots bristle?)
Who loves abstruse theories, but also believes in the application of
Ockham's razor and is glad that Richard, at least is of similar
opinions. (In his last post, at least. He may disagree violently with
this!)>>>
I agree 100%. Just as "English" is a concoction of languages, so I
think is the language of the Potterverse. I love etymology and Latin
derivations in particular. I just feel that JKR has perhaps cast her
net a bit wider than Latin, just as her use of mythology is not
confined to one cultural heritage.
Ali
Who doesn't really "give a fig", but loves the debates!
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