Introducing a New Memory Charm

[lucky_kari]

No: HPFGUIDX 42732

--- In HPforGrownups at y..., "naamagatus" <naama_gat at h...> wrote:
> 
> Just a few comments... 
> 
> --- In HPforGrownups at y..., "lucky_kari" <lucky_kari at y...> wrote:
> 
> > 
> > " In a world where Peter is Scabbers, I refuse to believe that JKR 
> > sets up this fascinating possibility that Frank knew something, 
> > something that could still influence the plot as a complete red 
> > herring. It's well, as one my masters taught me when I was a young 
> > padawan learner,  not BIG BANGY. If JKR passes up on this chance, 
I 
> > will be very disappointed."
> 
> I'm with you here, Eileen.

Thanks! I think we're a minority here, but we can set up our deck 
chairs on the Big Bang Destroyer... (not going any further, since this 
isn't a TBAY post)

> Ummmm. Well. What if Neville simply overheard his father talking of 
> this secret; while talking to his wife, for instance? I don't think 
> it's imperative for Neville to have been present at the toruring 
> scene in order for him to know the secret (this doesn't undermine 
the 
> theory, btw). 

Yes. That's very true. However, memory charm people are quite often 
rather bloodthirsty folks, and can't stand not to have Neville about 
that night. 

> > 
> > Well, well, well... Let me paint a picture for you.
> > 
> > Fudge is first on the scene in the Longbottom affair just as he 
was 
> > with Sirius Black. 
> 
> But, at the time of the Longbottoms' scandal Fudge is Minister of 
> Magic. 

No, he wasn't. It was the Longbottom affair that made him Minister of 
Magic. Check "Padfoot Returns" where Sirius explains that after the 
trial, Fudge was made Minister while Crouch was shifted to 
International Co-operation. It seems to me that Fudge was likely to 
still be in Magical Catastrophes at the time of the Longbottom affair. 

>(we can gather 
> this from the fact that after Voldemort's fall, Dumbledore was 
> asked to be Minister, and only after he refused, Fudge got the job 
by 
> default).

No, only after Crouch had been taken out of the running (see above). 
And, I'm a little skeptical about Dumbledore being offered the job and 
refusing it. That's Hagrid's POV, but do we see any evidence of that 
unity in the wizarding world after Voldemort's fall? Sirius mentions 
that a lot of people were keen for Crouch, and I'm pretty certain they 
weren't keen for Dumbledore. I put down Hagrids "they wanted him for 
Minister" with "not a witch or wizard went bad that wasn't in 
Slytherin" etc. 

Eileen