Voldies at the Riddle Mansion; go get him!

[bboy_mn]

No: HPFGUIDX 42791

--- In HPforGrownups at y..., "grey_wolf_c" <greywolf1 at j...> wrote:
> > bboy_mn wrote: < <
 Certainly, after hearing Harry's dreams and hearing what happened to
Harry in the cemetery; Dumbledore must have figured out that Voldemort
has been staying at the Riddle Mansion.
 
True now that Voldemort is omnipotent (at least in his own mind), he
probably won't hang around there much longer, but I would think that
it would be worthwhile sending people to investigate.

For one thing, there may be clues that would substantiate Harry's
story; like disturbance to Riddle's grave, damage to headstones, the
fresh foot prints of a couple dozen death eaters, eye or ear
witnesses, or other clues that may have been left in the mansion. One
thought is that Harry has never been to this place, but he has seen it
and can describe it, and  direct them to the room that Voldemort was
staying in.

 Of course, this is all Book 5 stuff, and may very well come to pass.

 Just some thoughts.

> > END bboy_mn < <



> The ever so Knowledgable and Opinionated, with a very cool name,
GREY WOLF: <
 
I don't see what you're getting at here, bboy_mn. Dumbledore already
believes Harry's story, so why would he need proof for? About the only
thing is to try to convince the MoM that Harry is telling the truth,
but that clashes directly with Dumbledore's Modus Operandi. The fact
is that Dumbledore has decided to bypass the MoM entirely in this
second time over. They're simply too inmersed in bureaucracy and
paperwork to be useful, and that's without considering all of the
people who might be working for Voldemort from inside the MoM, and the
ones that can be Imperioed.
> end Grey Wolf - paragraph 1 <

bboy_mn replies:
It's not to convince Dumbledore; I agree, he's all ready convinced,
but any good investigator investigates the scene of a crime. People
will eagerly support Dumbledore, but still, it's going be hard to
convince people that Voldemort is back. Not because they don't believe
it, but because they don't want to believe it. Still, I'm sure his
friends will come around quickly. 

Let's face, there is a whole wizard world that is going to need
convincing, and better they are convinced by Dumbledore's logical
explaination and the evidence, then for them to wait until Voldemort
and the DE's are marching down their street.

The Ministry - True, Dumbledore realizes that the Ministy's
bureaucracy is a hinderance, but Arthur Weasley still has to get as
many individual Ministry officials on his side as possible. You may
not like the ministry but you still have to deal with them.

So the scene of the crime my provide information to support Harry's
claim and it may supply information that Harry is not aware of. This
reenforces Dumbledore ability to argue his position. Just seems
logical, to go there and look for any possible clues that might help.
Maybe the cauldron is there, and a sample of the cauldron potion might
help Dumbledore confirm that Voldemort has made himself vulnerable.
Just don't think it could hurt to take a look at the scene of the crime.

-end boy_mn reply to paragraph 1 -

 
Grey Wolf Continues: paragraph 2
Besides, according to my pet theory (MAGIC DISHWASHER), Dumbledore
already knows where the events took place, since he wanted Voldemort
to use the potion, better than any other (im)mortality method (read
the full story for the details). Since the potion required bones of
his father, I'd imagine that Dumbledore knew exactly where they were.
In fact, one of my theories is that the secret owner of the Riddle
mansion is in fact Dumbledore, since Frank Bryce was kept on the job
(another possibility is Malfoy, since he has many of Voldemort's
objects, but I can't imagine Malfoy paying a poor, old man with
difficulties to do the job properly).
 
 Hope that helps,
 
> End - Grey Wolf <

bboy_mn also continues:
There is a difference between what Dumbledore knows and the available
evidence. Example: you can know someone committed a crime, but not
have enough evidence to prove it; Knowledge vs Proof, Knowledge vs
Evidence, Knowledge vs Information. Any evidence, any information that
can be gathered has to be helpful to them. Who knows, maybe Voldie in
his arrogance, left some information behind.

Dumbledore owns Riddle Manor- 
I always thought that was a cool idea, and very reasonable. Why did
Rowlings even say that some unknow investor owned the Mansion for 'tax
purposes' unless that person has some significants. She could have
just ignored the ownership issue and let us assume it was abondon.
Although, it may have be just to explain Bryce's continued presents
there. 

Still I think it would be cool if at the end of the story, Dumbledore
gives the mansion to Harry and Sirius as a reward for the help in
defeating Voldemort.

bboy_mn