[HPforGrownups] Re: Duel Harry (WAS: Harry Wasn't Going to *Really* Kill Sirius)

[Richelle Votaw]

No: HPFGUIDX 42973

Grey Wolf raises a most interesting point:

> My favourite theory, MAGIC DISWASHER (in case you haven't noticed by
> now, this theory answers many of the questions. That's one of the
> reason I like it so much), bases it's second part (the graveyard
> showdown) in the fact that Voldemort is not a stupid evil overlord, but
> a careful planer: he gives a wand to Harry because Harry's more
> powerful *without* a wand (check post 40044 for the complete theory, or
> just go down to the "Harry is more powerful without a wand" section).
> When he's got a wand in his hand, the only spell he knows that is
> useful in that situation is Expelliarmus (and it's not particularly
> useful, either), while without it the espontaneous magic could have
> saved him.

This is good.  Really good.  Voldemort then is not being the least bit
"noble" as his death eater's believe, by giving Harry his wand.  Instead, he
is trapping Harry so that he will only use spells that he knows.  Voldemort
could very well have known about many things Harry did without a wand,
thanks to Wormtail.  I'm sure Harry has told Ron other things we don't know
of, besides the blowing up his aunt bit, easily overheard by Wormtail as
Scabbers.  Therefore Harry is being backed into a corner, in which he
wouldn't even think to drop the wand and just be spontaneous.  If he could
once he thought of it even.

We know for certain that Harry has done through spontaneous non-wand
directed magic a number of pretty impressive things:

1) Apparated (or something similar) to the roof of the school kitchen
2) Turned his teacher's hair blue
3) Grew his own hair back overnight
4) Removed the glass from the window of the snake tank
5) Blew his aunt up

Anything else I'm forgetting?  Anyway, had Harry not had his wand when
facing Voldemort, he may in fact have had such a raging hatred toward him
that Voldemort would simply have . . . blown up or something.

Grey Wolf again:

> I don't like that sort of metathinking discussions about what JKR wants
> to tell us with the books, so I do think that Harry *is* going to kill
> Voldemort. Of course, I'm giving it 50/50 to the possibility that Harry
> dies in the process, too. And 80% to the fact that Ron dies to allow
> victory, just like he did in the chess match in PS (my first acronymed
> theory: RICK'S THS BOSS).

I'm with you there.  Especially on the Ron thing and maybe but hopefully not
Harry dying in the process.  However, I think it's likely Harry kills
Voldemort but either not with magic or not with wand directed magic.
Something JKR said in an interview once . . . they were asking her if she
were a Christian and believed in God.  She said yes. They then asked if she
believed in magic.  She responded "Magic in the sense in which it happens in
my books, no, I don't believe.  I don't believe in that.  No.  No.  This is
so frustrating.  Again, there is so much I would like to say, and come back
when I've written book seven.  But then maybe you won't need to even say it
'cause you'll have found it out anyway.  You'll have read it."  I find that
interesting, it somehow implies that magic won't be the answer.  Not magic
in the sense of all Harry's training.  At least that's how I read it.

Richelle