Trelawney deserves credit, But so does Ron!

[Linda C. McCabe]

No: HPFGUIDX 43026






--- In HPforGrownups at y..., "Ambir Adams" <ambiradams at h...> wrote:
> I actually think Ron is a bit more accurate with his predictions,
> although he doesn't realize it yet.  Most of everything he said to
> Harry has happened, or did happen.  If you want me to find specifics
> like quotes and page numbers I will.  I think Ron really has the gift
> of sight, not Trelawney.  Sure she might have had two correct
> preditictions but honestly, only two?

Grey Wolf then responded with:
Ah, another convert for HAGRID WANTS BRASS DRAGONS AS PETS, ANSWERS,
WANDS CRISS-CROSS or WANTON MORASS OF TOSH. Pity *I* don't buy the
idea. Proof? Ron gets predictions right because he scouts almost all
the possibilities, after all, and even then, it needs even more clever
arguing about how he correctly predicted than to explain how Parvati
expected a letter about the death of her rabbit. Any of the defenders
of the above-named theories would like to come out and expose -in a
nut-shell- their arguments?




Okay so Grey Wolf has sent out four, count them four acronyms for my own pet
theory and asked me to step forward to defend it.  I've been happily writing
and have once again gotten woefully behind in my reading of this list.  So,
please excuse the lateness in my reply.

The Goddess takes up the challenge.  To back up, just a little, I am with
many others that are expecting/wishing/anticipating that Ron is a Seventh
Son.  Why?  Why not!  I love the idea of taking old legends such as Seventh
Sons being gifted with the Sight and applying them to the Potterverse.  All
it takes is another son born before Ron to make it happen.  Many people have
commented on the large gap between Charlie and Percy as being a place ripe
for another child.  And then there was Arthur Weasley's statement about the
Dark Mark being everyone's greatest fear.  Along with Molly's somewhat
overblown reaction when her family returned after the QWC.  I think that's
because they experienced a death of a child during Voldemort's reign number
1.

And my pet theory, which has the above named four acronyms (I guess that's
what you get when you send out the call for someone else to name a
theory!) - is that there is a veiled pattern in the Weasley family names.
It is alphabetic, but with a little obscuring.  This is how it goes for the
newbies who haven't heard this before:

Arthur

Bill -  which I think is short for Bilius - the uncle who died after seeing
a Grim, mentioned in PoA  (OT - if I had a name like Bilius, I'd certainly
use a nickname, similarly if it were Sanguine or Phlegmatic, or Choleric -
the four body types used in physiognomy a 'science' that dates back at least
to Aristotle)

Charlie

--David - hypothetical dead son

Edward Percival -- slight obscuring of true first name - done all the time
by people who get called their middle names versus their true first names.

Fred

George

----death of David and probable change of naming scheme due to superstitious
thoughts by Molly and Arthur

Ron
Ginny


Many think that I'm grasping at straws with this.  If you don't want to
believe my pet theory, that's fine.  Personally, I want anyone to step
forward and tell me if they linked on the first time they read PoA that the
line about Scabbers missing a toe on a front paw with the later line about
the biggest bit they found from Pettigrew being a finger.  Did *anyone*
catch that?  I sure didn't.  But I think the alphabetic naming scheme is
obscured enough to be just her style.

As for predictions by Ron, in Talons and Tealeaves he saw the acorn in
Harry's teacup as being "a windfall, unexpected gold."  - the prize for the
Triwizard tournament.

Then when they were to predict things for their own future in "The
Unforgivable Curses" Ron predicted:
he'd develop a cough - undetermined validity
- he then suggested Harry would be stabbed in the back by someone he thought
was a friend  - preview of Harry and Ron's monthlong non-speaking to each
other
Ron will come off worse in a fight - Yes, when he and Harry made up, it was
Ron who looked the fool.
Ron predicted he'd drown - 2nd task anyone?
Ron predicted he'd get trampled by a rampaging hippogriff - not yet at
least.


Another reason that I favor having Ron being a Seventh Son goes back to the
mirror of Erised.  He wanted to be able to step out from the shadows of his
older brothers.  The only way that he could envision that would be to become
Head Boy - (like Bill and Percy had been) *as well* as being Quidditch
Captain of the champion team.  I submit that if he became a Prophet - that
he would indeed distinguish himself from all of his older brothers.

Of course, Grey Wolf just wants Ron to sacrifice himself in order to save
Harry from the predicted Death by Decapitation.  He thinks the Knight scene
from PS/SS is foreshadowing of future sacrificial death by Ron.  Could be.
Possibly Ron will have that as well as incredible divination powers.  I
don't see why they have to be mutually exclusive.

I hope that satifies the wolf's request for supplemental evidence and
theory.

Athena


For explanations of acronyms check out Inish Alley:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/database?method=reportRows&tbl=1
3&sortBy=1&sortDir=down&start_at=0&query=


BTW, I had checked out on a calendar to find out that Ron was born on a
Saturday.  According to legend from Yorkshire, England anyone born on a
Saturday had nothing to fear from vampires.  They could never become one,
nor could they become a victim.  (this was a paper I wrote over 20 years ago
in high school about those blood suckers!)  So, I suppose for those who
think Snape is actually a vampire - that Ron has nothing to worry from him,
you know except for failing his class, of course.