"Despiadado" Crouch and HumanRightsMartyr!Wilkes

jodel at aol.com jodel at aol.com
Fri Aug 23 04:38:31 UTC 2002


No: HPFGUIDX 43044

Very much appreciated Elkins's summary on the debate over the policies Crouch 
Sr. instituted as Head of Magical Law Enforcement.

>>First he (Sirius) mentions that the aurors were granted license to kill 
rather than to capture.  Then he mentions that many people (other than he 
himself) were sent to prison without trial.  And *then* he states that Crouch 
authorized the use of the Unforgiveables.  Finally, he concludes that Crouch 
had become "as ruthless and cruel as many on the Dark Side."


I have never assumed that the AK was the Unforgivable Curse to which Sirius 
was alluding here.  He'd already covered that base when he cited the license 
to kill.  No, I have always assumed that the Cruciatus -- and to a lesser 
extent, the Imperius -- were the relevant Unforgivables here.<<

Yes indeed. Cruciatus to extract confession and Imperius to facilitate 
something like sting opperations to bring other suspects into range. Vile 
acts all of them, But it got results, and if the press was favorable it's 
small wonder that there was a growing faction who wanted Crouch for MoM. And, 
mind you, Sirius's summation of events was describing the situation as it was 
occuring AFTER Voldemort's first fall. 

It begins to sound to me like maybe the Lestranges and their remaining 
acomplice should be quietly given a medal... It sounds to me like the 
wizarding world had a lucky escape.  Can you imagine how far into 
totalitarianism it would have spiraled under Crouch? 

I agree. Barty Crouch Sr. was one seriously evil wizard. Regardless of whose 
side he was on.

-JOdel





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