WANDS: Harry's vs Voldemort: Reply to All
bboy_mn
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Sat Aug 24 22:35:16 UTC 2002
No: HPFGUIDX 43127
BBOY_MN who once upon a midnight dreary, did ponder weak and weary:
--- In HPforGrownups at y..., "bboy_mn" <bboy_mn at y...> wrote
> Maybe I'm just reacting to a figure of speak, or to a context
> that I don't recognise, but soooooo may people speak as if the
> Big_V/Little_H brother wands mean that Harry and Voldemort can't
> fight or harm each other.
>
> NOT TRUE!
>
> We have already seen Big_V put Harry under the Cruciatus curse,
> and without a doubt, if Harry hadn't reacted to the AK curse, he
> would be dead now. Kill by the 'brother wand' of Voldmort.
>
> This unique effect, of which, the prior incantatum is merely a
> side effect, only occurs when they throw SIMULTANEIOUS CURSES.
>
> Note, earlier in the story, Harry and Draco throw simultaneous
> curse and the curse hit in mid-air and are deflected off of each
> other. So there is always an unusual affect when simultanious
> curses are thrown against each other.
>
> Once again, the brother want effect, which in turn produces the
> separate prior incantatum effect, only occurs when 'brother wands'
> throw simultanious curse against each other.
>
> That's my story and I'm sticking to it.
>
> bboy_mn
bboy_mn commnets to Richelle #43111:
The odds of true 'simultaneous' spell casting is slim. Think of cowboy
gunfighters, one always draws first and one always shoots first, and
more important, the one who draws first is not alway the one who
shoots first.
You did bring up another point that I didn't dwell on, partly because
I thought it was a given. That is the two spell DO have to collide in
mid-air; full force direct head-on impact. So in my book, both timing
and direction must be precise which makes the likelihood very small.
Just as a clarification note: the duel I was referring to between
Draco and Harry occurred in the hallway outside potions. This is the
one that caused Hermione's teeth to enlarge. The spell collided in the
air and were deflected, which caused them to hit innocent by-standers.
I also, later upon thinking about it, took this as JKR's introduction
in which she planted the seed in our minds regarding the unusual
effects of simultaneous spells colliding.
bboy_mn respond to Grey Wolf #43119:
WOW! ....uuuuuuuuu...... Improvised; right of the top of your head you
say. COOL!
I'm impress, very good analysis. I suppose we might find some holes in
it if we try, but overal, I would say an excellent techincal analysis
of the effect.
I would suspect that there is a certain common resonance or harmony in
the energy that is cast from the same tail feathers that causes them
to merge. An effect that would not be the same, simply by using two
pheonix feathers against each other. The fact that the feathers are
from the same pheonix is absolutely critical.
bboy_mn concludes (please hold the applause until after I'm finished,
thank you):
Regardless of the technical details, the point is that, while this
brother effect, of which I say Prior Incantatum is only a side effect,
does give Harry some edge and some protection (which it also gives
Big_V), it doesn't stop them from fighting, cursing, or killing each
other. I DO suspect that the is more to the Brother Effect than we
have been told so far, but it still doesn't prevent V and H from
cursing or killing each other.
That's my story and I'm sticking to it.
bboy_mn
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