The Potions inconsistency (was: Mirror and Obstacles)

Melody Malady579 at hotmail.com
Mon Dec 2 13:12:52 UTC 2002


No: HPFGUIDX 47585

Melody said:
>>That is not a Flint.  Harry said there was only enough for either
>>Hermione or himself.  This is after Quirrell is already in the next
>>room, so it stands to reason that there was enough for two people
>>in that rounded bottle.  Now I ask you why is that so convenient? :)

>Scheherazade again:
>yes, but, if there was originally two doses of the potion in the
>bottle, wouldn't Hermione or Harry notice that there was less in that
>one bottle? meaning that someone had already drunk it?

Um...Hermione and Harry knew someone had drunken from the bottle
because they thought Snape was in the next room at the time.  I do not
see why they would of thought immediately that this bottle was the
right one for the black flames, since there was different sizes of
bottles.  It could be assumed different amounts of liquid were in
each.  If anything, if they did assume something based on sketchy
information like that, then they would be doomed to fail.


CK wrote:
>Okay. Do /not/ have my Book 1 with me here, so bear with. Were there
>still two doses in the bottle Hermione drank from, or not? Because
>Quirrell wouldn't've drunk from that bottle yet.

It does not say how much was in Hermione's bottle but it does say the
smallest bottle was the one for Harry to use.  And besides, what does
it matter how much was in Hermione's bottle since the goal was to get
past the black flames not purple flames.


CK wrote:
> Additionally, how in the world were they counting on two people?
> Considering that Ron /might/ not have been taken, had he sat on
> another piece - or, here's a thought - had HE stepped into the king
> spot and the other two just stood back and watched - or if Neville
> had in fact gone along with them... Geh. There are too many loose
> ends on that plot thread, IMO. ;)

Not by mine CK.  The whole reason there was two doses, by my opinion,
was so just Quirrelmort and Harry could be in the room.  By my
estimate, the obstacles were a way to tag off any student, which means
Neville could of been thought a part, that followed Harry down there.
 So Hermione and Ron were never meant to be in the mirror room with
Quirrelmort.  The reason why Dumbledore was counting on two people is
what Grey Wolf and I were discussing on the chalkboard behind the TBAY
stage.


CK finally asked:
>And finally... nnno. Didn't the flames spring up after they came into
>the room? So either the flames 'reset' after a certain amount of time
>(in which case, why bother?!) or else Quirrell did not activate the
>flames.

Yes, both flames sprung up when they got in the room.  That does not
mean they would not die again after the potion drinker passed through
the black flames.  The idea was to get past that check point.  Once
past there, they were wanting to move onward, so the part was not too
important.  The potion just made the drinker get that icy sensation
chewing gum commercials advertise to get through the flames.

I guess you are asking why bother if he could get back out.  Then they
are not trapped.  Hmmm, don't know there.  Maybe when you return to
the room the flames trigger again and you have to figure out which was
the purple flame potion.  You know, I guess the room was not a trap.
Sorry Sche.  :)  But the mirror definitely was.  Quirrell would of
gone mad from his desire and frustration.


Melody
who should be getting ready for work





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