The Potions inconsistency

[Melody]

No: HPFGUIDX 47615

Steve wrote"
> No one knows except Snape; a dose could be a drop, a swallow, or a
> gulp. Quirrell, Hermione, or Harry couldn't have possibly know how
> much one dose was. There could have been four doses in the vial the
> let them move forward to the next chamber, but Quirrell pigged out
> with three large gulps, which was far more than he needed, leaving
> Harry with just barely one dose.

Umm...didn't you just contradict yourself?  You were arguing that no
one but Snape knows how much the official dose should be, so how could
Quirrell *know* to take three "doses" and how did Harry *know* there
was only enough for just him?  I mean if it was a drop left then I
could understand, but would Harry see that drop and believe it would
be enough?  I guess that is not a fair question on my part though, so
I will not place my argument on it.

For dose references, I can think of the polyjuice drink, werewolf
drink, the veritaserum drops, and the few drops for Neville's toad in
the shrinking potion.  Hmm, split there.  I wonder if the frog drops
are for size?

So, I guess whatever the dose for the freeze-flame potion is, we are
to understand that there is only one dose available for Harry since
Hermione did not correct Harry in his assertion.  Seems she would of
know.  :)


Phyllis wrote:
>IMO, we're definitely led to believe that the smallest bottle is
>full. There is no mention of it being half-empty, or of someone
>already drinking from it. It's referred to as "tiny," and Harry
>tells Hermione "There's only enough there for one of us...That's
>hardly one swallow." Harry "drained the little bottle in one gulp"
>(PS/SS, Ch. 16). Granted, this isn't enough to conclusively conclude
>that the bottle wasn't completely full, but I think the implication
>is there.

You know that makes just as much sense as Catlady's suggestion.  I
just read the passage to mean Quirrell had already drank from the tiny
bottle, so there was only enough left for Harry.  Thus, why I said
there was only enough for two people.  But, as it has been shown to
me, my assumption could be rather short-sighted in this magical world.
 Sorry about that.  :)  Ok, that proof is scrapped.


Dinah wrote concerning on the flame-freezing charm Phyllis suggested:
>But wouldn't it be completely besides the point to make things that
>easy?  They were trying to keep experienced wizards out - they surely
>didn't think they needed to protect it from the pupils alone, did
>they? And while Harry, Ron and Hermione managed to get through they
>were 3 people, each with special skills. Quirell got through because
>he knew what was expecting him.

I agree Dinah.  Seems if it is supposed to be that easy, then what
would be the point.


But Phyllis brought up this point:
>In addition, Dumbledore needed a way to get in there when he arrived
>to save Harry. Unless the bottle refilled itself, he would have had
>to have found another way to brave the flames.

Well, he could of conjured up another potion or known the secret brick
to hit to get past faster.  The obstacles are, after all, his brain
child.  Or even better, Dumbledore, knowing what was coming, had the
black flames potion already prepared in the folds of his robe.  Hey,
Quirrell could of done that too actually.  Another proof to there only
being one dose period in the bottle.

Gee, this logic check point on the obstacle course is too sneaky.  :)


Melody
who thinks those 17 people in the pole who checked that they do not
know of MD are probably list elves trying to give Grey Wolf an ulcer.
 I know *I* was tempted.  ;P