[HPforGrownups] Moody/Crouch Whose personality? / Some mistakes in book1???

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Galactic Lu writes:

> But all I can think about while reading is Fake!Moody's personality. Whose 
>personality is it? Is it really Crouch's or is it Real!Moody's? Fake!Moody is 
>so
> gruff and hardened yet kind to Neville after the class experiences the
> unforgivable curses. Of course, we find out much later that F!M is 
>setting Neville up to help HP in the TWTournament. Yet, in my American version 
>of GOF, Ch. 14, page 220, Neville is feeling proud that Professor Sprout told
>Professor Moody that he, Neville, is good in Herbology. Harry thinks that
>it was a very tactful way for Professor Moody to cheer up Neville after his
>fright of seeing the Cruciatus Curse upon the spider.Doesn't sound to me
>as if Crouch really could care less about anyone's feelings but his own.

Now me:

I think it all was part of Crouch's master plan to get Harry to the third task 
and ultimately to the graveyard.  Remember that during the lesson in which 
Neville witnessed the Cruciatus curse that his parents were driven insane by, 
Harry also witnessed the Avada Kedavra curse that his parents were killed by.  
To me it was just as traumatic for Harry as for Neville, but Neville generally 
responds more freely with his emotions (that or he was also put under the 
Cruciatus curse as a small child, but that's another theory alltogether). Fake!
Moody's only motive for bringing Neville to his office was to get that book 
close to Harry with the clue for the second task.  What did he do to help 
Harry, who had just learned exactly how his parents were killed?  "All right, 
Harry?" was about it.  And Harry's quick "yes" was as good as a 
resounding "no."  He wasn't all right.  Just look at his response to Ron's 
excitement over the way the spider's life was "snuffed out."  And of course 
once Ron realized what he was saying, he understood that as well.  Harry was 
very shaken up by it, as he should have been, and as Neville was.  For Fake!
Moody to make a point of saying how the only person to survive an AK was 
sitting in front of him was his way of making sure Harry knew that was how his 
parents died.  I think inside Crouch was laughing it up.  Real!Moody would've 
had no desire to torture a couple of fourteen year old boys by bringing up a 
very painful past for both of them.  It all boils down to Crouch's incredibly 
versatile and deceptive personality.  He would've been a great guy if he'd 
chosen the right path instead of the wrong. 

bboy_mn :

> Also, wizards and witches seem very resilient. Neville fell from 50ft
> and only broke his wrist. Harry fell from a similar height (onto soft
> wet ground) and was unhurt. He was unconcious because of the Dementor,
> not because of the fall. That's the equivalent of falling off a FIVE
> story building. 

I think that if Dumbledore hadn't slowed Harry's fall he would have been hurt, 
and his friends obviously had thought he'd been killed.  Dumbledore's quick 
actions saved Harry on that one.  I think it is possible for a witch/wizard to 
be killed by a fall, or else why would the Quidditch team be so shaken up?  Not 
to mention Ron and Hermione, who were for once, speechless.  Hagrid's comments 
about James and Lily I think referred to, as someone mentioned, the fact that 
they died in the war with Voldemort, not simply in an accident.

Richelle

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