Snape, James and Harry
kiricat2001 <Zarleycat@aol.com>
Zarleycat at aol.com
Wed Dec 11 03:57:33 UTC 2002
No: HPFGUIDX 48129
I do believe he (Snape) has a code of
> > morals, and iron self control, and enough sensitivity not to push
> > Harry beyound taunting and into the grounds of real, damaging
> > cruelty.
Right, he uses Neville Longbottom, the kid whose parents were
tortured to insanity, as his punching bag. Mr. Sensitive to the
max...
> In PoA, Ch.19, Snape screams at Harry "You'd have died like your
> father, too arrogant to believe you might be mistaken in Black."
[p.
> 265 ]. Earlier, in Ch. 14, he tells Harry his version of James
> saving his life, which is extremely unflattering to James.
> But he has never, ever used against Harry what he must quite surely
> realise - that the father whose memory Harry idolises is the man
> whose faulty judgement killed himself and Lily, and nearly killed
> Harry himself.
> In a sense, Harry is an orphan because James Potter *was* too
> arrogant to believe his friends would betray him. Dumbledore
offered
> to be his Secret Keeper. James was warned that one of his friends
> was a traitor. [Ch. 10 of PoA]. But he preferred not to believe it.
Yikes, I don't know that I would characterize that as "arrogant"
behavior. Willful blindness, a complete unwillingness to believe
that one of the people you've know and trusted and who are part of
the pattern of your life is trying to kill you...I could never
characterize that as arrogance. Rather, it's denial. If Dumbledore
said (did he say in canon???) "James, let me be the Secret Keeper
because I know someone close to you is a traitor." And James'
response was "No, that can't be possible, I KNOW these guys, it can't
be one of them..." That, to me, is a perfectly understandable
reaction, and arrogance has no part of it.
> But Snape has never said 'your father nearly got you killed',
or 'if
> it wasn't for your father, you wouldn't be an orphan'. That has
been
> left for Harry to work out.
It is very hard to put the precise blame for an event on one person
for their (re)actions at a particular moment in time. So many other
things enter into it. At the time of the Potters' death, so much of
the Wizard world was in turmoil. Is it so unusual to think that James
(and Lily?) might have clutched onto the thought that at least in the
middle of all that madness, he felt he could trust his long-time
friends? A tragic mistake, but not remotely arrogant.
As for Snape never saying to Harry that it was all James' fault that
he and Lily were killed and Harry orphaned, I think Snape knows full
well that that life is not necessarily a black/white, either/or
bargain. People do what they think is right at a particular moment,
using the information they have at hand. That information is
filtered through their own beliefs and past experiences, and then
acted upon. And sometimes, the action results in tragedy.
> What Snape *has* said is that James wasn't a hero, wasn't a saint,
> and struck Snape, at least, as arrogant.
I'm sure that James is not saintly, and I have mentioned in other
posts that I think Harry will find out some things about James that
will show him in an unflattering light. But, knowing the uneasy
history between Snape and James, I hardly think that Snape's
assessment can be considered balanced and even-handed.
Marianne
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