[HPforGrownups] James, Sirius, Lupin, Snape (Was Re: Snape, James and Harry)

[Maria Kirilenko]

No: HPFGUIDX 48147


Marianne wrote:

Yikes, I don't know that I would characterize that as "arrogant" 
behavior.  Willful blindness, a complete unwillingness to believe 
that one of the people you've know and trusted and who are part of 
the pattern of your life is trying to kill you...I could never 
characterize that as arrogance.  Rather, it's denial.  If Dumbledore 
said (did he say in canon???) "James, let me be the Secret Keeper 
because I know someone close to you is a traitor."  And James' 
response was "No, that can't be possible, I KNOW these guys, it can't 
be one of them..."  That, to me, is a perfectly understandable 
reaction, and arrogance has no part of it.

Me:

I agree that this isn't arrogance. But James does seem to be a poor judge of character. You say that he didn't believe that one of his friends could betray him. But it's my opinion that he was sure that it was Lupin.

Sirius said that he thought Lupin was the spy and that he convinced James make Wormtail his Secret-Keeper. I'm sure that one of the arguments he used was that he was sure Lupin was the spy. James probably believed it, since I really can't think of another reason as to why Sirius is both best man at the wedding and Harry's godfather.

Marianne:

As for Snape never saying to Harry that it was all James' fault that 
he and Lily were killed and Harry orphaned, I think Snape knows full 
well that that life is not necessarily a black/white, either/or 
bargain

Me:

Well, Snape doesn't exactly mind spreading the blame for the Prank evenly among Lupin, Sirius and James, even though Lupin wasn't to blame, as far as we know. 

So, I'm sure Snape'd have no scruple in assigning the blame to James, unless he had reasons not ot do so, or if he didn't really want to hurt Harry. 

Also, we don't know why James didn't agree to make Dumbledore his Secret-Keeper. IMO James didn't want to endager Dumbledore, because having a living and sane Dumbledore was just essential. 

And another question concerning Lupin: why does Snape hate him? As far as the Prank goes, Sirius is the one to blame, since it was him who actually told Snape where to go to find Lupin. Snape's hate of James is also understandable. But I can't understand why Snape hates Lupin. We haven't heard Snape say about Lupin's behavior to him. 

Does he just really, really detest werewolves? Or does he hate "James and everyone who was friends with him" up to the point where the hatred is blind? Or did something else happen that we don't know about?

Maria




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