[HPforGrownups] The Unforgivable Curses

eloiseherisson at aol.com eloiseherisson at aol.com
Sun Dec 15 08:35:02 UTC 2002


No: HPFGUIDX 48344

Ashfae:


> > From: Tammy Bianchi <Resqgal911 at msn.com>
> > 
> > This has been bothering me for a while.  Why does Crouch!Moody make sure
> > that Harry learns to fight the imperio curse?  I would have expected
> > someone that was helping V to get Harry to try to send him as unprepared
> > as possible.  My next question is why focus so much on teaching all the
> > students how to break the imperio curse when he is just supposed to be
> > showing the curses to them.  I believe the answer to this is that Crouch
> > Jr. didn't want anyone to suffer as he did all these years his father
> > kept him in hiding.  But, this would give Crouch Jr. a little to much
> > credit.  After all he did keep Real!Moody under imperio all this time.

Ashfae:
> 
>     I wondered about this, but the answer is obvious really: it was in 
> character. I'm not sure we give Barty Crouch enough credit. 

Eloise:
Oh, some of us give him credit! There is a (possibly small) band of loyal 
Crouch Jr fans out here!

>     <snip>
The real Moody would certainly have made sure Harry > Potter could throw off 
> the Imperius Curse, if Harry showed any signs of being capable of doing it. 
> I imagine Barty wasn't too happy about this, as he knew perfectly well that 
> Harry would be coming face-to-face with Voldemort (known for making use of 
> the Imperius Curse), but there wasn't anything he could do without blowing 
> his cover. 

<snip>


>     But still, Harry's ability to fight of Imperio is not very
> important, at least not yet. 
> 

Eloise:

I have suggested before now that the reason that Moody teaches Harry to 
resist the Imperius is precisely because it *is* important in the plan to 
bring Voldemort back.
Harry had to win the Tournament as part of that plan. He had to win it 
despite the presence of Karkaroff, reputed to *teach* the Dark Arts, and a 
contingent of Durmstrang students. Particularly given Karkaroff's reactions 
to Harry's inclusion in the Tournament, Crouch must have had it in mind that 
he or one of his students might Imperio Harry to throw the Tournament. Crouch 
himself Imperio's Krum into performing an Unforgivable in the maze, doesn't 
he, so Karkaroff could have done the same.

I'm sure that he wanted to know if Harry *did* have the ability to fight the 
Imperius.
If he didn't, then Crouch's game plan for guiding him throught the Tournament 
would have to be slightly different. Perhaps if he could't resist, Crouch 
himself would have used the Imnperius on Harry to make him win the 
Tournament. It might have made things a bit easier! He could have Imperio'd 
him into finding out how to succeed in the Second Task, for instance, by 
sending him for a dip with the egg and making him ask Neville for advice.

But having found out that he *did* have the ability to resist, then Crouch's 
only option was to make sure that he could resist well enough that no-one 
else could interfere with his plans by Imperioing Harry.

~Eloise


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