Snape and the Map (was: Re: Thoughts on PoA Snape & What Snape

[eloise_herisson <eloiseherisson@aol.com>]

No: HPFGUIDX 48346

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "Amanda Geist" <editor at t...> 
wrote:
> Give that woman a gold star.

Thank you very much!
I'll pin it next to my Exploding S.N.A.P. (Snape's not A Psychopath)
badge on my B.A.B.E.M.E.I.S.T.E.R. (don't ask me what that stands 
for!) tee shirt.


<snip>
> Eloise ventured:
> 
> > I know I'm going to regret this, O Revered Arch L.O.O.N., but 
don't these
> two
> > paragraphs contradict each other? Snape doesn't hear Lupin's 
original
> > explanation that they created the Map (just before he enters) but 
*does*
> hear
> > the reprise as you indicated in your original post.

Amanda:
> 
> Caught. You're entirely correct. I was working from memory rather 
than the
> book itself, and Lupin does indeed mention again, this time in 
Snape's
> hearing, that he and the others made the map. I must figure out what
> L.O.O.N.s do when they trip up; I really don't want to iron anything
> attached to me....

Eloise:
Oh, please don't, Amanda!
I'll let you into a secret.......I very nearly posted the same thing 
myself. In fact I think I'd actually written it when, being a little 
neurotic on occasion (and aspiring to L.O.O.N.acy myself), I went 
back and checked the text; I've been caught out too many times 
before. ;-) So that was the only reason I caught it.

> 
> However, given what I was speculating about Snape's reactions and 
possible
> rationales for them, this adds fuel to a couple of the fires, 
doesn't it?
> Which means, I suppose, that pickle jimmy was right in the first 
place. Oh,
> well.

Eloise:
It also highlights what I regard as one of the more obvious of JKR's 
plot manipulations.
I cannot, for the life of me work out why Snape didn't tell 
Dumbledore about the Map. I suppose that perhaps he didn't realise 
that Lupin would give it back to Harry. But why on earth didn't he 
simply pocket it when he found it in Lupin's office? And how did he 
tell his side of the story to Dumbledore and Fudge without mentioning 
it? Why does Dumbledore still know nothing about it until Crouch Jr 
tells of it under interrogation?

> ~Amanda, duly chastened L.O.O.N.

~Eloise, Aspirant L.O.O.N.

Hoping that the last paragraph isn't repeating anything from earlier 
in the thread. I got so spectacularly behind that my mail box was 
refusing to take any more messages and it took me a while to realise.