[HPforGrownups] DD KNEW about the Map (was: Snape and the Map)

Angela Evans sixhoursahead at yahoo.com
Tue Dec 17 11:32:31 UTC 2002


No: HPFGUIDX 48430


This point of interest has never struck me as important before, but after reading all these messages, I feel inclined to add my two cents.
 First:  Why Snape did not confiscate the map from Lupin's office.  

The Severus Snape we all know (and love), would definitely have pocketed that map when he saw it on Lupin's desk, no doubt.  BUT, we have to keep in mind, that Snape was not himself that night.  Look at his behavior in the Shrieking Shack, he has gone even beyond his usual heights of unreasonableness.  Can't you just see him with the map in his hands?  The surge of wonder and excitement he must have felt when he saw it?  Finally he was going to get even, prove himself right, show everyone he was not "the fool" that he was made into years before.  And then can't you see him just dropping the map and running full speed towards the Whomping WIllow?  Once he saw Lupin dissapear off the map towards Hogsmeade, there would be nothing else to see right then.  And I do not think he was in the state of mind to be so forward-thinking and keep the map.

Did Snape tell DD of the map in PoA?

I think he did.  He most likely did not just leave it out of his story.  Snape is most likely under the impression that "Moony" gave Harry the map.  So, now DD knows that there is a magical object created in part by James, that has been handed down by one of James' best friends to Harry.  Would DD confiscate the map?  I do not think so.  He probably believes that Harry has a right to it.  Obviously the map was just MADE for sneaking-about, and rule-breaking, but then, who gave Harry the Invisibility Cloak?

Why Snape Didn't Tell DD that Moody Had the Map

I never really thought this through.  But I can agree with Eloise that Snape may have thought it was "in safe hands"with Moody.  Plus, if Snape told DD about the map the year before, and Snape now sees that Harry is still in posession of it, do you think he would run to DD and say, "You know that map that you let Potter keep?  Well now you best old buddy Moody, who you have given permission to search my office, and basically do whatever he wants, well he has it, and I really think you should do something about it?" Plus, Snape does not know that Moody keeps the map, does he?  He probably thinks that Moody returned it to Harry.  And Harry's possession of the Map in GoF (after Snape told DD about it in PoA) probably tells Snape that Harry is allowed to have it.  yes, Snape is not above trying to go out and his own and take it from Harry, but it would be pointless to go to DD.

"Map?" said Dumbledore quickly, "What map is this?" 

Is there anything in this comment that tells us DEFINITIVELY that DD has no knowledge of the Marauder's Map?  I do not think so.  In any case, DD has heard no mention of the map in a year, and he certainly did not expect it to turn up in the hands of Barty Crouch Jr.  He very quickly demands to know what map this is, but when Crouch tells him, there is no other comment of surprise by DD, or any later questioning of Harry about the map.  

 

So my only question is:

Where is the map now?

I think Dumbledore has it.  But I really have no idea.

 

ANGELA




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