[HPforGrownups] Hermione's wand and related question.

srsiriusblack at aol.com srsiriusblack at aol.com
Wed Dec 18 20:36:36 UTC 2002


No: HPFGUIDX 48504

In a message dated 18/12/2002 08:48:49 Eastern Standard Time, 
renitentraven at hotmail.com writes:


> 
> I have to pose this question after fruitless searching of H.P 
> archives: Does anyone have any information regarding the properties 
> of Hermione's wand?
> 
> Why?
> 1. I find it very odd that for all it's 'screen time' Hermione's wand 
> has never been noticed enough by Harry to describe with as much 
> detail as, for example, her teeth.

I don't much have an answer for this one as much as to say, very good point. 
However, perhaps JKR has not thought that Hermoine's wand is of particular 
consequence?

> 
> 2. Despite Ollivander's assertion, "You'd never get such good results 
> with another Wizard's wand",(P.S.,64), first year Hermione was able 
> to flawlessly perform the alohomora charm with Harry's wand. A wand 
> fine-tuned to Harry and, by the nature of their connection, to 
> Voldemort.

Ok. This is something that has been bugging me as well; however we see in 
GoF, someone  ( Crouch Jr) uses Harry's wand to conjure the Dark Mark using a 
spell only the Death Eater's know- "Morsmorde!" Mister Ollivander examines 
Harry's wand and uses it, as well.
In PoA, in the Shrieking Shack, there is a great deal of wand switching.
My best guess is that it is possible for people to use wands not their own if 
the will of mind is strong enough.......
Although, this still leaves the issue of Harry finding his wand at 
Ollivander's after blowing things up with other wands....




> 
> Again why?
> 1. In a way she already has.
> In her third year Hermione didn't trust Harry and Ron's judgement or, 
> importantly, their ability to listen to her concerns, resulting in 
> her going behind their backs regarding Harry's Firebolt. 

This was sheer concern and using of her mind. McGonagall agrees with Hermoine 
that in light of Black's escape, Harry's already torrid past with Voldie, and 
the fact that there was NO card or note attached to the parcel, it is best 
that the Firebolt be tested for jinxes, hexes, etc. Granted, I thought that 
it was a little excessive, but then, I had an inkling that Sirius would not 
be the "big bad man".

> 
> 2. G.O.F.pg 485,".....I left him with Viktor Krum."
> "You did?" said Dumbledore sharply, and he began to take longer 
> strides still.....
> I'm not sure I take Hermione's insistence of, "He's really very 
> nice",is a brilliant character analysis given Dumbledore's 
> reservations, and her limited contact with Mr. Krum.
> 

This is another good point. It has already been established that Karkaroff 
was in Azkaban as a convicted death eater. Sirius stresses to Harry that this 
is important... Thus you would think that Harry would suspect Krum to be a 
little shady.... Yet,  Harry is suspicious of Krum until they discuss 
Hermione, and Harry realises that he is in no danger with Krum. Ludo, 
however, upon seeing that Krum wants a word with Harry does express some 
concern by asking "Should I wait for you then?"- or something, I don't have 
the book infront of me....
I think that neither Harry, nor Hermoine have the doubts of the adults when 
Krum is concerned. Krum charms Harry in their conversation right before Barty 
Crouch appears in the woods by telling him what a good flyer he is. Perhaps 
this is a tactic to gain trust... we will hopefully find out in Book 5.

> 
> Hermione is smart but she blunders, House Elf Liberation Front etc.
> I think Hermione may blunder again, when an increasingly weird 
> hormonal Ron and dare I say it somewhat absorbed Harry, push Hermione 
> to another outlet for her concerns.
> The lack of Hagrid as a shoulder to cry on (ala P.O.A.) may prove 
> disastorous when a conversation starting , "I'm concerned about Harry 
> because.....",with the ever attentive Viktor Krum, ends with Hermione 
> precipitating a catastrophe when Krum passes her revelation along. 

Good point, again, but I am with the group of people that believe there is no 
way anything will happen to Hagrid ( for I will cry and cry...) But, if Krum 
becomes more than a friend to Hermoine, there is the chance that something 
like this could haoppen. Blinded by first love and the like, Hermione could 
put too much trust in Krum telling him everything  there is to tell about 
Harry, thus passing on information to the darker side - presuming Krum is a 
bad boy.

( This bad boy personification of Krum would psychologically fit Hermoine, 
though. She has already shown by her actions in yelling and Trelawny and 
storming out of her class and punching Malfoy that she has some pent up 
negative energy. If Krum is a bad boy type character, he can give her an 
outlet.)



> A powerful, intelligent witch isolated further from;
>              two very cheesed of friends (however justified),
>              absent and possibly indifferent parents, "My parents 
> don't read the Daily Prophet", G.O.F.pg 392,
> and the potential that she's been carting around a yew and phoenix 
> feather wand, as she obviously has the power; could highlight her for 
> posible subjectation, afterall Malfoy seems keen and Voldemort 
> himself was half muggle.

The flaw in this is that Hermoine is completely muggle born. I think that the 
Death Eaters/Voldemort would rather see her dead than anything. However, they 
would keep her alive long enough to get every ounce of information they 
wanted before killing her - ala Bertha Jorkins. But, I highly doubt they 
would let her live on because eventually Hermione would figure it all out, I 
suspect.

( ALthough for Hermione, discovering you have been passing information to the 
Death Eaters would probably warrant suicide....)

> I wo'nt to be wrong because I *love* Hermione so a one word answer 
> of, "Hermione's wand is willow with a cute lucky rabbit's tail fluffy 
> core", would be of enormous relief, if it's true.
> 

:::conjures up best deep voice to sound like sean connery::::: I named the 
dog Hermione

It's true. I would hate to see this happen, as well. Hermione is a good 
portion of the brain power behind the threesome... if they lose her.. well... 
I would be afraid to see what happens...

-Snuffles



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