[HPforGrownups] Hermione's wand and related question.

[jazmyn]

No: HPFGUIDX 48513



srsiriusblack at aol.com wrote:
> 
> 
> I don't much have an answer for this one as much as to say, very good
> point.
> However, perhaps JKR has not thought that Hermoine's wand is of
> particular
> consequence?
> 

Except maybe to Hermione.  Doesn't seem she ever gets into anything
where anyone asks for details about her wand. She's not in any magical
contests, she's not had to go buy a new one like Ron did nor does she
talk about her wand any.  To a personality like hers, perhaps its only a
tool and she doesn't think about it like some do.

> 
> Ok. This is something that has been bugging me as well; however we see
> in
> GoF, someone  ( Crouch Jr) uses Harry's wand to conjure the Dark Mark
> using a
> spell only the Death Eater's know- "Morsmorde!" Mister Ollivander
> examines
> Harry's wand and uses it, as well.
> In PoA, in the Shrieking Shack, there is a great deal of wand
> switching.
> My best guess is that it is possible for people to use wands not their
> own if
> the will of mind is strong enough.......
> Although, this still leaves the issue of Harry finding his wand at
> Ollivander's after blowing things up with other wands....
> 

Please note that when Harry got his wand, he didn't know how to use one
at all yet.  Maybe if he knew even a simple spell, he might not have
blown things up, since he would be 'experienced' in handling a wand.

Seems that more experienced wizards or witches don't have problems using
other wands. Certainly Ollivander can use any of them, even ones with
what he calls 'temperamental' cores, as seen in the Weighing of the
Wands.  Ollivander's comment that other wands don't work as well as a
wizard's own most likely means just that. They don't work 'as well'.
They still DO WORK, but maybe it takes a little more control and
concentration to use them or the resulting spell might not be as strong,
though this would only be apparent with stronger charms or something.
ie. Maybe a Cruciatus Curse with someone else's wand is slightly less
painful then with the wizard's own?  Maybe a transformation spell with a
strange wand doesn't come out quite as perfect?  May depend also on the
power of the wizard as well.  Certainly experience with a wand would
have something to do with it to.  What would happen if Harry had to
replace his wand?  Would things still blow up?  Or in fact, would he
just cast simple charms till a wand felt 'right'.  Its also obvious that
wands can be replaced if broken or lost, as Ron was able to buy a new
wand after breaking his. So its not 'one wand/one wizard'.  If you can
replace a wand, then there might in fact be some wands that 'get along
well' with more then one wizard and some 'temperamental' wands that
might only work well for one or two people.  I think the wands are as
individual as people.

I also don't think the wands are 'tuned' to the wizard at all, but in
fact, some cores or wood types perform better for some wizards.  I would
guess its more like picking out a violin (musicians will understand
this, the rest of you might not), you try a bunch of them till you find
one that 'feels' right.  In fact, some might find more then one that
feels right and have to pick among them and others might have to search
a while to find one that is 'right'.

However, what happens to all those wands whose owners died? Its quite
posible that another person might find an old, used wand to be their
'match'?  One wonders about 2nd hand wand shops in Knockturn Alley?
(evil grin) 


> 
> This was sheer concern and using of her mind. McGonagall agrees with
> Hermoine
> that in light of Black's escape, Harry's already torrid past with
> Voldie, and
> the fact that there was NO card or note attached to the parcel, it is
> best
> that the Firebolt be tested for jinxes, hexes, etc. Granted, I thought
> that
> it was a little excessive, but then, I had an inkling that Sirius
> would not
> be the "big bad man".
> 

Well, she had to know Sirius's connection to Harry's past and knew that
Azkaban may have totally unhinged him, making him dangerous to anyone,
even his own godson.

> 
> This is another good point. It has already been established that
> Karkaroff
> was in Azkaban as a convicted death eater. Sirius stresses to Harry
> that this
> is important... Thus you would think that Harry would suspect Krum to
> be a
> little shady.... Yet,  Harry is suspicious of Krum until they discuss
> Hermione, and Harry realises that he is in no danger with Krum. Ludo,
> however, upon seeing that Krum wants a word with Harry does express
> some
> concern by asking "Should I wait for you then?"- or something, I don't
> have
> the book infront of me....
> I think that neither Harry, nor Hermoine have the doubts of the adults
> when
> Krum is concerned. Krum charms Harry in their conversation right
> before Barty
> Crouch appears in the woods by telling him what a good flyer he is.
> Perhaps
> this is a tactic to gain trust... we will hopefully find out in Book
> 5.
> 

I think telling him he is a good flyer was more an apology after he
found out that Harry didn't in fact have any relationship going with
Hermione.  Krum read the Rita Skeeter nonsense and got worried that it
was true and thought Harry was a rival.  When he found out he wasn't, he
likely felt foolish and wanted to made amends by complimenting Harry.

> 
> Good point, again, but I am with the group of people that believe
> there is no
> way anything will happen to Hagrid ( for I will cry and cry...) But,
> if Krum
> becomes more than a friend to Hermoine, there is the chance that
> something
> like this could haoppen. Blinded by first love and the like, Hermione
> could
> put too much trust in Krum telling him everything  there is to tell
> about
> Harry, thus passing on information to the darker side - presuming Krum
> is a
> bad boy.
> 
> ( This bad boy personification of Krum would psychologically fit
> Hermoine,
> though. She has already shown by her actions in yelling and Trelawny
> and
> storming out of her class and punching Malfoy that she has some pent
> up
> negative energy. If Krum is a bad boy type character, he can give her
> an
> outlet.)
> 

I thing Krum is a nice guy, but something of a loner due to having been
schooled at Durmstrang.  He might not have had any interest in the dark
arts, but is talented, thus might have spent more time studying then
trying to make friends with other students he didn't care much for
(budding dark wizards?)?  Maybe he saw a soulmate in Hermione. Someone
else who buried herself in books because it was hard for her to make
friends?

Krum's sulkyness might be more 'loneliness'.  He isn't interested in
people who just want to buddy up to him for being famous and might
consider them 'fair weather friends' at best.  He might have been
looking for REAL friends. Thus Hermione, who is not impressed by fame
and Harry, who is famous himself and can relate to Krum.  

Jazmyn