FF: Harry's Dream of the Turban

dicentra63 <dicentra@xmission.com> dicentra at xmission.com
Mon Dec 23 04:11:09 UTC 2002


No: HPFGUIDX 48707

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "marinafrants <rusalka at i...>"
<rusalka at i...> wrote:
> I have two questions about this scenario, though.  
> First, how would Voldemort know Harry's a Parselmouth?  

How would Voldemort know that Harry had the Stone in his pocket?  I
don't exactly know, but I imagine, as you say, that because the
ability comes from Voldemort himself, he'd sense some kind of
resonance.  Or even if Harry was a Parselmouth on his own, maybe
Parselmouths can detect each other.  At any rate, Turban!Voldie seems
to know what's going on even from beneath the turban.

> 
> The second question is, what exactly was Voldemort hoping to 
> accomplish with that dream?  The dream-turban tells Harry he must 
> switch to Slytherin house.  But Harry's already been sorted, and 
> it's not like first-years can switch houses at their whim.  

As far as we know, they can't.  But Harry wouldn't necessarily know
that.  Maybe if he were persuaded that he had "messed up" the sorting
by arguing with the hat, he might go tell someone that there had been
a mistake.

> If the 
> message was metaphorical, encouraging Harry to side with the Heir of 
> Slytherin in his future, then it seems like a roundabout way of 
> doing it -- eleven-year-old boys aren't much good at deciphering 
> symbolism and metaphor; if you want them to do something, you have 
> to tell them straight out.  

If I were Voldemort (and sometimes I am :D) I'd want to prime his mind
to accept that he belonged in Slytherin--starting with the
subconscious and then trying a more direct approach later on, maybe
using Quirrell to tell him about the Chamber and show him what he can
do with it.  I'm imagining that Voldemort figures he can use Harry
that very year to BE the Heir of Slytherin and open the Chamber.  Then
Voldie would be rebirthed shortly thereafter and all Hell would break
loose.  MUCH earlier than JKR had planned, but that's Voldemort for you.

But because Harry resisted even while dreaming, Voldemort took it as a
terrible affront and determined to destroy him as originally planned.

And to make matters worse, Harry had the nerve to forget the dream the
next morning.  :D

Now how about this?  Let's say Harry doesn't hear about Slytherin from
Hagrid and he accepts the Hat's verdict.  He's in Snape's house.  How
does that affect how he treats Harry?

Does Snape hate Harry in part because he knows Harry refused to be in
Slytherin?

--Dicentra





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