Fidelius (WAS Re: SecretKeeper needed at the Dursley's house)
corinthum <kkearney@students.miami.edu>
kkearney at students.miami.edu
Thu Dec 26 05:21:08 UTC 2002
No: HPFGUIDX 48822
Meira wrote:
> I think (and I
> hope I'm not pilagiarizing anyone's ideas, my apologies if I am)
>that the
> Fidelius is not around a *location* but around a *person*.
>
> I also think that the Fidelius charm protects Harry from those who
> intend to
> *harm* him...
> Anyway, it would make much more sense if the Fidelius was around a
> person
> rather than a location, because then it would resolve all the
>logistical
> problems of having protection in one place, while having none in
>another
> place.
Me:
It is actually never stated that the Fidelius Charm conceals the
whereabouts of a person at all. Professor Flitwick describes it in
PoA (The Marauder's Map, pg. 205 US hardcover) as follows:
"'An immensely complex spell,' he said squeakily, 'involving the
magical concealment of a secret inside a single, living soul. The
information is hidden inside the chosen person, or Secret-Keeper, and
is henceforth impossible to find- unless, of course, the Secret
Keeper chooses to divulge it. As long as the Secret-Keeper refused
to speak, You-Know-Who could search the village where Lilly and James
were staying for years and never find them, not even if he had his
nose pressed against their sitting room window!'"
Note that he says *the information* is impossible to find, not a
person. Note the change in tenses: the first two sentences refer to
the Fidelius Charm in general; the last one referred to its specific
use with Lily and James. The charm basically takes information out
of the realm of public knowledge and makes it impossible to access.
In the case of Lily and James, the secret information happens to be
their location. In the absence of the charm, a person could look
into their window, see Lilly and James, and *poof! suddenly know
their location (not a hard connection to make, right?). But with
Fidelius in play, that final conclusion, however obvious it might
seem, is no longer possible.
So could Fidelius really be used to protect Harry at the Dursleys?
What would the secret information be? As others have mentioned, it
certainly isn't his identity; too many people recognize him. I doubt
it would be his location. If it were, wouldn't that mean that no one
could ever find him? From Flitwick's description, the charm seems to
keep the information from absolutely everyone except the secret
keeper. But hundreds of people know Harry's location when he's at
school, and many more know where the Dursleys live (whether they have
ever been there or not). Fred, George, Ron, and Mr.Weasely have both
been to that house and seen Harry in it.
So the secret isn't Harry's identity or location. I can't seem to
attribute Harry's protection at the Dursleys to the Fidelius Charm.
Although perhaps the charm is protecting something else about Harry...
-Corinth, wishing everyone happy holidays!
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