Underage wizards and magic use & Dobby
Diana <dianasdolls@yahoo.com>
dianasdolls at yahoo.com
Thu Dec 26 06:51:07 UTC 2002
No: HPFGUIDX 48826
Dom McDermott wrote:
> I was wondering if anyone knew any more about the rules etc for
the use of magic for non-graduates? If I'm reading it correctly (and
forgive me for being unable to provide quotes to back myself
up) 'underage wizards' (presumably those who have yet to graduate)
are not permitted to use magic outside of school.
> Does this mean *all* magic? And also how strict are they on these
rules?
> In COS, Harry is reprimanded by letter for using magic in the
pudding incident. This letter comes to him even though it wasn't he
who was the cause, so how do the MOM target individual underage
wizards? Did they note that magic was used in the Dursley house and
as the only wizard in the house, Harry must be responsible? If so,
what would happen if, say Ron used magic in his house when his
parents and older brothers were there? Would the MOM be able to
ascertain that the magic was from Ron, or would there be the
presumtion that it came from one of the qualified wizards (and
witch)?
> Another note on this subject is that two other occasions stick out
in my memory. Firstly, one the train to Hogwarts in PS/SS, Ron is
trying to turn Scabbers yellow. Elsewhere in the series I believe it
mentions that the students are still able to use magic while onboard
the Hogwarts Express, but to me it gives the impression that Ron has
perhaps tried the spell before (ie: when not on the train) and also,
around the same time, Hermione arrives and says that she has only
tried a few simple spells, but they've all worked fine for her.
> Secondly, during the build up to the quidditch world cup in GOF,
there is an incident where a child uses his fathers wand to engorge
a slug, and the mother gives the impression ('Havent' I told you not
to play with your father's wand?' or words to the effect) that its
not the first time.
> Do the parents of this child receive letters from the MOM about
improper magic use, and has Hermione already got a stain on her
magical record before the first day of term at Hogwarts??
ME:
I wondered about that as well, but then it occured to me that Harry
was using magic for years without ever getting an admonishing letter
from Hogwarts. He sicced a snake on Dudley, made his hair grow back
in one night, turned his teacher's wig blue, shrunk an ugly brown
sweater Aunt Petunia was trying to make him wear, jumped up to the
roof when being chased by bullies at school, and that's just the
ones we know about. Granted, Harry didn't know he was directly
doing this magic, but then Hogwarts couldn't tell that it was Dobby
doing magic in the Dursley home instead of Harry, either. Let's say
that Hermione's childhood was the similar, with mysterious instances
of magical occurences because she didn't know she was a witch until
she got her Hogwart's letter, then all the other muggle-born witches
and wizards would have had similar instances in their childhoods.
They couldn't really be admonished for this as they are too young to
really control what they were doing. Besides, these events signal
that that child is a witch/wizard, which is something that can't be
controlled.
I would assume that young children using magic is up to parental
authority and supervision, UNTIL that child enters Hogwarts as a
student. Hermione probably got her letter, then her magic supplies,
wand, etc. and then immediately tried some spells. She wouldn't
have had any reason not to as there was no note in the Hogwart's
letter [we saw Harry's letter word for word in PS/SS] telling the
students NOT to use magic until they got to school.
Most likely, I imagine that First Year students are not admonished
not to use magic between the time they receive their letter and
board the Hogwart's Express because they are so untrained and
uneducated in magic that they couldn't do much harm.
By the time they go back home and wait for their second year, those
same students probably know enough magic to cause some trouble.
Thus, Hogwarts hands out letters telling them not to use magic over
the summer.
As for whether MoM could distinguish Ron's use of magic in a
houseful of wizards and witches, that is a very good question.
Since MoM couldn't tell Dobby's house-elf brand of magic apart from
the magic Harry creates when using his unique wand, then I doubt
that MoM could pinpoint Ron using magic in house full of magic-
users. MoM must decide that a houseful of wizards and witches would
know to keep Ron [and others like him] from doing magic while on
summer break because they were all previous graduates of Hogwarts
and were familiar with the rules. I wonder if Lucius Malfoy is
keeping Dracro from using magic during the summer? Hmmm.
I think you are correct about why Harry got a letter. He is the
only wizard in the Dursley house. If there's magic there, MoM must
conclude he's the one doing it. This does make me wonder how Dobby
got into Harry's room if Harry is protected so well. I mean, Dobby
is a Death Eater's servant! Wouldn't you think that a servant
owned by a Death Eater would have had trouble getting into Harry's
room? I really wonder about how Dobby got past the protections and
if that will be explained in the future. Maybe there is a lot more
to house-elves than we've been led to believe.
Diana
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