[HPforGrownups] Sirius the Slyth -- Not.

[Barb]

No: HPFGUIDX 48881


 alicit at aol.com wrote:
However, i think there is a big inference that can be made from this statement.  Sirius Black *must* have been in slytherin.  There's no way both hagrid and ron would have made such an absolute statement, to the extent of 'all bad wizards were in slytherin,' with the glaring exception of Black.  If black was in gryffindor, wouldn't they mention it? or at least add an 'almost' to it?  Sirius was considered one of the most dangerous dark wizards 
of their time!   

 

Me:

In PoA, there is no indication that Ron knew anything about Sirius Black until he escaped from prison.  Even Hermione, who reads constantly, didn't seem to have come across his name in a book; if she'd read about his betraying Harry's parents, let alone killing a street full of Muggles, she wouldn't have been just as surprised as the boys when she learned what happened.  The trio learned of all that when they were eavesdropping on Rosmerta, Fudge and, IIRC, Hagrid, McGonagall and Flitwick at the Three Broomsticks.  Given things his dad probably said about houses he'd raided, it's not surprising that Ron would get the impression that everyone evil came from Slytherin, without any particularly solid or specific evidence.

 

As for Hagrid, he's not the clearest thinker at all times, is he?  It was really rather easy for him to let slip to the "stranger" in the pub how to get past Fluffy, in the first book.  No doubt he dwells quite often on the cause of his expulsion: Tom Riddle.  (Could this be a reason for his drinking?)  In that Riddle was responsible for his life basically being arrested after he was kicked out of school, I think Hagrid isn't going to see straight about this at all.  Even though he betrayed the Potters, I think that compared to Riddle/Voldemort, Hagrid would consider Sirius to be a mere aberration.  Not to mention that he'd have to think about the way he trusted Sirius himself, which is probably not the pleasantest of thoughts for Hagrid.  Back when Hagrid made his statement, in the first book, Sirius Black was safely in prison and Hagrid probably hadn't thought of him for years.  I think most statements by Hagrid need to be taken with a grain of salt, and this one is a big ole red herring that's really, really, really salty. ;)  

 

As far as I can see, there's absolutely no reason to assume that the four Marauders weren't all in Gryffindor.  That's probably why the supposed betrayal of Sirius rankles so much--it didn't come from the quarter you'd expect.  That's also why it's called a "betrayal."  If he'd been a Slytherin, everyone would have simply said that it was no more than you could expect from one of THEM, and James and Lily should have known what he was to begin with...

 

--Barb

 

 

 


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