HouseColors-werewolf-Ha/Ro+etcShips-Fidelius-TimeTravelOurChoices-TheTwins

Catlady (Rita Prince Winston) <catlady@wicca.net> catlady at wicca.net
Mon Dec 30 05:27:37 UTC 2002


No: HPFGUIDX 48979

Sushi wrote:

<< while three of the Houses have primary colours, Slytherin, the 
"bad" House (bah, I'm Slytherin and proud of it!), is relegated to a 
secondary. >>

If there are to be four Houses and three Primary Colors, then there 
cannot be one Primary Color for each House. Green IS a primary color 
for some few people who have a new mutant color receptor (cone) in 
their eyes, in addition to the normal 3 receptors (one that fails in 
red/green colorblindness, one that fails in rarer blue/yellow 
colorblindness, and I don't know what the third normal one does). 
The new recepton (I can't remember which of the old receptors it 
descended from) makes its person see blue overprinted with yellow 
as being a different color than green ... they would see the number 
hidden in the little dots and the rest of us would say those dots are 
all the same color.

<< the corrosive nature of silver as opposed to gold, lead, and, to a 
slightly lesser degree, bronze, >>

I think bronze corrodes even more than silver does, but I noticed 
that Gold, Bronze, and Yellow are all Or ("gold") in heraldry, so 
Hogwarts would have three Houses with Or and only one with argent 
("silver"). This pointed act of excluding Slytherin is the only 
reason I can see for Ravenclaw (*my* House) to accept *bronze*. Well, 
everybody knows what is meant by Gold medal, Silver medal, Bronze 
medal, and no medal!

The poster formerly known as Strix wrote:

<< Gryffindor is fire, Ravenclaw is air, Hufflepuff earth, and 
Slytherin water. Or at least that's the way I'd assign them. >>

This is a forbidden "I agree" post. Water suits Slytherin because 
water is kind of *devious*, adjusting its shape to fit any place it 
might be, and seeping out through the tiniest of holes. Of course, 
water also has good aspects that we don't see in the officially "bad" 
House.

Sharana wrote:

<< A werewolf is not a man turned into a wolf. It is something 
between a human and a wolf. It is usually pictured standing up on 2 
feet, with furry hands. >>

That may be what werewolves are like in Real Life, but that is not 
what werewolves are like in the Potterverse. When Snape was 
substitute teacher of DADA and asked the class the differences 
between the werewolf and true wolf, Hermione answered: "the werewolf 
differs from the true wolf in several small ways. The snout of the 
werewolf --" If the werewolf were a bipedal humanoid with lots of 
hair, claws instead of nails, and a wolf head, she would have said 
so, not begun by saying "small ways" and "snout".  

I see I am echoing Cheryl Lynx.

Chris fanfictionmaniac asked:

<< What do you think of the Harry/Ron Ship? What would Hermione 
think? >>

That's one of the ships I like. Hermione (the compulsive liberal, 
think SPEW) would be cool with it, but I fear Ron wouldn't.

Jazmyn wrote:

<< wondering why no one mentions that HUGE fleet of gay SHIPs,>>

See above.

<< the Snape/Hermione SHIP seems to be trying to sneak out to join 
the others, >>

It's not their ages I object to (20 years is no big different to 
people who live to be 150), it's the mismatch of their personalities. 
Remus/Hermione could work: they could learn to relate as equals while 
doing post-grad research together, and then get into romance. Still, 
I prefer my beloved Sirius/Remus, and Ginny is the only female I'm 
eager to ship Hermione with.

Tcy wrote:

<< could she choose to divulge the information to a select few 
(Weasley Family, Sirius, etc.) and still keep the charm *active*? 
Or is it no longer effective at all once broken? >>

I don't think canon SAYS, but I have always assumed that the Secret 
Keeper divulging the secret to even one person breaks the Charm. I 
want to know, what about people who knew the information BEFORE the 
Fidelius Charm was cast? Does the information go out of their heads, 
or be hidden like a Memory Charm? Or do they still know the 
information, but anyone they tell it too can't quite receive it?  

Anna Hemmant wrote:

<< This was the way that the events were played out because this is 
the way they were written down in some mythological future history 
book in the sky. >>

Well, yes, it is true of characters in novels that they *do* have 
a Creator who *does* have a plan for them and their future actions 
*are* predetermined or predestined. Some or all of those things might 
also be true of people in Real Life (we are characters in a novel but 
we don't know it). But if the future is already written (for which 
there is science as well as philosophy), what does that do to JKR's 
theme that of "our choices" being so important? I know there've been 
a lot of times in my personal life when I was agonizing over a 
decision (such as which university to attend, way back when), and 
thinking indignantly that IF the outcome were already decided, then 
why did I have to work so hard deciding?

Corinth wrote:

<< No! No, no, no, no! This is off topic, but I must rant. >>

Am I demonstrating an unfortunate talent for irritating you?

<< Twins are not one person! Of course the Goblet could have made a 
choice; they are two completely different people. >>

I know they're two different people, but they choose to always be 
together and work as a team, so I wonder if either of them alone 
would be much use as Hogwarts Champion. Would the Goblet be able to 
predict how long it would take the chosen twin to get used to not 
having his right-hand-man at his side? Just the *unfamiliarity* of 
the situation would be a handicap. I bet the Goblet *could* spit out 
both their slips of paper together, indicating that they were to be 
Hogwarts Champion as a team (not competing against each other), and 
that would cause TREMENDOUS Hullaballoo from the other competing 
schools.

<< And I hope to God the school wouldn't make an exception and treat 
the twins as a single person. >>

I suppose Hogwarts isn't the kind of place that worries about 
creating competition and jealousy between siblings: Parvati and 
Padma are supposed to compete with each other as members of their 
respective Houses, and conceivably could compete for who got to be 
Head Girl (except it's going to be Hermione). But nonetheless, Molly 
would beat up on the one of them for not having done as well as 
"your brother".

There were two pairs of identical twins at my university. Jim and Bob 
Longstreth lived in different dorms with different friends and looked 
very different: Jim had long hair, beard, granny glasses, the whole 
hippie thing, and Bob had short hair, clean-shaven, contact lenses, 
the whole preppy thing. Dorothea and Roberta Pierce were roommates, 
struggled mightily to always wear exactly the same clothes and take 
exactly the same classes and get exactly the same grades. It was 
reported that they said: "We want to be a doctor". It was also 
reported that they had a terrible fight one morning when they got 
dressed and found that one was wearing nylons in the color Suntan and 
the other in the color Nude (yes, they wore dresses and nylons when 
normal people wore jeans and sneakers) and each accused the other of 
not wearing the color they had agreed on when choosing their clothes 
the night before. Fred and George seem to have chosen to be the 
Dorothea and Roberta type, while Parvati and Padma seem to have 
chosen to be the Jim and Bob type.

Scheherazade wrote:

<< I'm planning to write an essay on the twin's individual 
personalities. In general, i've noticed that Fred seems to be the 
'dominant' twin, while george is more reluctant in the mischief >>

Jana George_Weasleys_Girlfriend (she hasn't been around much this 
year) long ago proved that George is the much kinder and more 
considerate twin. I can't remember where her essay was posted 
(sugarquill??).

Anne U wrote:

<< Actually I don't see either Fred or George as potential prefects 
(JMHO, YMMV etc.). My understanding of the prefects at Hogwarts is 
that they are usually *outstanding* students in some way. >>

Whether one (or both) of them would have been chosen as Gryffindor 
boy prefect of the class of 1996 depends on what other boys were in 
Gryffindor '96: the only one we know of is their friend Lee Jordan. I 
imagine that Lee Jordan would be a better choice of prefect: he 
doesn't get in quite as much trouble, and he is trusted to commentate 
the matches. But we know nothing about his marks.

In addition to being popular, Fred and George are outstanding 
Beaters. My question about them being prefects hypothesized: IF "Fred 
and George were less troublesome OR had better grades". They are 
certainly bright enough to get good marks and lots of OWLs if they 
chose to make the effort (surely inventing Canary Creams requires 
being good at Transfiguration!). James and Sirius were just as big 
of trouble-makers and James was prefect and Head Boy -- he was an 
athlete like them AND had excellent marks.

I see I am echoing spi00000000 about James and Sirius.

Scheherazade (would you mind if I nicknamed you Shrzad after a woman 
at my job?) wrote:

<< neither would either of them be made the hogwarts champion >>

That also depends on who the other applicants were ... and the twins 
have a lot of the qualities that I think the Goblet chose on, not 
chose on good marks or obeying rules: courage, quantity of magic 
power, ingenuity/intelligence, maybe athletic prowess, maybe 
popularity...

Why did the Goblet choose Cedric rather than Angelina?





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