name meanings - Neville

[elfundeb]

No: HPFGUIDX 34434

--- In HPforGrownups at y..., "david_p2002ca" <david_p at i...> wrote:
> --- In HPforGrownups at y..., "vheggie" <vheggie at y...> wrote:
> 
> > 3)Neville - a really short thought; when I think of toads or 
frogs 
> in 
> > childrens' literature (and no, I'm not going into *that* 
childrens 
> > lit vs. adults lit debate) the first thing that uccurs to me is 
> that 
> > when they're kissed they turn into princes.  Any chance this is a 
> > reflection of Neville's future, or potential?
> 
> Hmm... perhaps one of the best known Nevilles of the 20th century 
was 
> British Prime Minister Neville Chamberlain, of "Peace in our time" 
> fame (or infamy).
> 
> One hopes that's not in the cards... lest Hogsmeade become 
> Czechoslovakia.
> 
> 
> David

There's another Neville (or rather several of them) in English 
history from the Wars of the Roses timeframe.  One, whose first name 
I forget, was Earl of Warwick, controlled a considerable amount of 
armed forces and (my recollection gets really foggy here) I believe 
he at some point switched allegiances between the Yorkist and 
Lancaster factions with such potent effect that he was 
nicknamed "Warwick the Kingmaker."  He had two daughters, one of whom 
was Anne Neville who was married to Yorkist King Edward IV's youngest 
brother Richard, who after Edward's death became King Richard III of 
Shakespearean "A horse! A horse! My kingdom for a horse!" fame.  I 
don't recall, however, what happened to Warwick after he helped put 
Edward IV [back] on the throne.  Any historians or Shakespeare 
scholars out there who can help with the facts?

It would be fascinating for our Neville to turn out to be some sort 
of kingmaker in the sense of making a choice that had a decisive 
effect on the outcome.  But I think we may be reading too much into 
this -- perhaps Neville was chosen simply because the name sounds 
aristocratic and his family is wizarding pureblood.

Debbie (keeping her fingers crossed for Neville regardless of what 
his name means)