Sirius and Snape frozen in time (WasSirius' Prank & Lupin )

gypaetus16 elfriede.schaden at chello.at
Fri Feb 1 05:45:24 UTC 2002


No: HPFGUIDX 34451

--- In HPforGrownups at y..., "Amanda" <editor at t...> wrote:

"Gabriele stated categorically:
Snape does not have friends to discuss his problems,..."
 
First, it is not categorally but MY point of view, such as I understood 
his situation in the 4 books. If forgot to add IMO than sorry, but for 
me it is clear that each statement in this forum is the opinion of the 
writer (I cannot imagine that someone is wasting his or her time 
writing mails about the opinion of other persons).


"That, to me, implies a level of at least professional camaraderie that 
a student would not necessarily perceive."

Friendship (i. e. people with whom you can discuss your problems and 
who in particular show interest in your problems and in a solution of 
them  - and I think Mr. Snape has a big load of them on his shoulders -
) is completely different than professional camaraderie. I myself am a 
teacher too and also have a number of "professional camaderie contacts" 
to my collegues in school but I never would discuss my problems (and 
those are real childich problems in comparison with those of friend 
Severus!) with my collegues in school, but with friends.

 
> Gabrielle continued:

"You assume Snape *wants* to dwell and dissect and discuss. (A) his 
character does not seem the type to me; (B) I note that you and I are 
both women, and would find such discussions natural and probably 
endless, but most men that I know operate on a more "this is what 
happened, okay, move on" type mode. I think it is entirely possible for 
a man like Snape to have rather a lot of social contact, and to keep 
those contacts at a distance, precisely to *avoid* having to speak 
about his past, thus being lulled and comforted by the *not* speaking 
rather than the speaking."

I never assumed that he wants to discuss, because if he wanted than he 
would do it and than he could have the possibility to mature (the 
discussion started about him frozen in time and his disability to 
mature - remember??). And discussions are helping, believe me. 
Additionally, social contacts and social contacts are different.

 
"You also assume that Snape *wants* to change"

I never assumed he wants to change (where did I do this?). I myself 
would like to change, thats all.

"I don't think personal development is high on his list; I think his 
young adulthood was spent in a horrifying situation, his current life 
is one where he prefers not to think too much about his young 
adulthood, his resentment of Harry and Lupin stems partly from the fact 
that their mere existence *makes* him think about it, and he has 
otherwise been simply passing the time, making students' lives 
miserable, until the second great conflict (which he knows is coming) 
comes."
> 
> --Amanda

This is the point. He is always thinking about his younger years but 
obviously has no possibility to digest them. And again, speaking about 
problems is part of the solution (psychoiatrists earn their money with 
discussion about problems of stangers and psychological support is part 
of any treatment in institutions such as prisons).


Gabriele







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