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> There are 25 messages in this issue.
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> Topics in this digest:
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>       1. ADMIN: Touchy subjects
>            From: "Amy Z" <aiz24 at hotmail.com>
>       2. Scarred Sirius - Out-of-character - Remus
> Esq. - Humor - Doomed Hagrid
>            From: "Amy Z" <aiz24 at hotmail.com>
>       3. Re: Re: US/English Versions
>            From: "Lucy Austin" <lucy at luphen.co.uk>
>       4. Re: Re: Jumper
>            From: Whirdy at aol.com
>       5. Re: Jumper
>            From: "joanne0012" <Joanne0012 at aol.com>
>       6. Re: Paranoia
>            From: mrgrrrargh at aol.com
>       7. Re: Imperius & Religion
>            From: mrgrrrargh at aol.com
>       8. Re: Re: Snape mentioning Peter
>            From: mrgrrrargh at aol.com
>       9. Re:Sirius and Snape frozen in time
> (WasSirius' Prank & Lupin )
>            From: "gypaetus16"
> <elfriede.schaden at chello.at>
>      10. Re: Confusion with my Last Post about
> US/English Versions
>            From: mrgrrrargh at aol.com
>      11. Re: Wizard Therapy (was Snape frozen in
> time)
>            From: mrgrrrargh at aol.com
>      12. Re: name meanings - Neville
>            From: "nb100uk"
> <nina.baker at uk.faulding.com>
>      13. Re: Snape (what else?), branching off a
> Sirius discussion
>            From: "Jo Jackson"
> <jo.jackson at bigpond.com>
>      14. Re: Re: Sirius and Snape/ US/English
> versions
>            From: Edblanning at aol.com
>      15. Re: Re: Jumper
>            From: Whirdy at aol.com
>      16. Dumbledore's judgement(Was Re: Snape
> mentioning Peter)
>            From: "marinafrants"
> <rusalka at ix.netcom.com>
>      17. Re: Sirius and Snape/ US/English versions
>            From: "marinafrants"
> <rusalka at ix.netcom.com>
>      18. About Ron (not shipping)
>            From: "meglet2" <mercia at ireland.com>
>      19. Re: Dumbledore's judgement(Was Re: Snape
> mentioning Peter)
>            From: Jenett <gwynyth at drizzle.com>
>      20. Re: US/English Versions
>            From: "lucky_kari" <lucky_kari at yahoo.ca>
>      21. Re: About Ron (not shipping)
>            From: "lucky_kari" <lucky_kari at yahoo.ca>
>      22. Re: Harry classmates "code"
>            From: "jklb66" <jklb66 at yahoo.com>
>      23. In Defense of Jewish Ravenclaws & "Why
> Excuse Snape"
>            From: "sing2wine"
> <bonnie.abrams at cwine.com>
>      24. Re: OT: Can there be Magic?
>            From: "uilnslcoap"
> <devin.smither at yale.edu>
>      25. Re: The Pop-Psychology of Peter and
> Animagus Thoughts
>            From: "abigailnus" <abigailnus at yahoo.com>
> 
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> Message: 1
>    Date: Fri, 01 Feb 2002 05:17:35 -0500
>    From: "Amy Z" <aiz24 at hotmail.com>
> Subject: ADMIN: Touchy subjects
> 
> Dear HPfGUers,
> 
> Religion, politics, and cultural differences are all
> acceptable topics per 
> se, but please be sensitive to the fact that we do
> not all share the same 
> views on these issues.  It is asking for a flame war
> when one makes 
> generalizations about a particular ethnicity, opines
> about the desirability 
> of religion becoming more or less dominant in real
> life, or comments 
> approvingly or disapprovingly on a current head of
> state of a real-life 
> country (Fudge-bashing is fine, of course).
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> Please tread with care; we are all grownups and
> capable of expressing our 
> ideas without being insulting or dismissive--right?
> <sweet, patronizing 
> smile>.  If not, there's plenty of dragon dung in
> the Magical Storeroom 
> ready to be boxed and sent.  ;-)
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> Thank you,
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> Amy Z
> Magical Moderator
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> Message: 2
>    Date: Fri, 01 Feb 2002 05:29:53 -0500
>    From: "Amy Z" <aiz24 at hotmail.com>
> Subject: Scarred Sirius - Out-of-character - Remus
> Esq. - Humor - Doomed Hagrid
> 
> Cindy wrote:
> 
> >you probably see Sirius as a 30-year old man who
> should have
> >developed the maturity to acknowledge his
> culpability for what he did
> >to Snape.
> 
> >I don't.  When it comes to maturity and personal
> growth, Sirius is
> >frozen in time, in suspended animation, really. 
> He's a walking case
> >of arrested development.  Still stewing over
> decade-old grudges,
> >showing no more emotional maturity or growth than
> the day he left
> >Hogwarts.  Still smirking about Snape's greasy hair
> like a pre-
> >adolescent, locked in the same old tired battles.
> 
> >And why is that?  Well, he's been locked up for 12
> years.  It is hard
> >to manage much personal growth when one is lying on
> the floor of a
> >cell in solitary confinement.
> 
> My thoughts exactly--except that it's much, much
> worse than 12 years of 
> solitary <shudders, trying to imagine such a thing>.
>  It's been 12 years of 
> almost constantly being forced to relive the worst
> moments of his life, and 
> some of them are pretty damn bad.  I have never
> found a friend's murdered 
> body, nor had anyone threaten to set me on fire
> <never mind Elkins--*I* want 
> to hunt the little buggers down one by one>, yet
> still, being locked into my 
> worst moments of loss, fear, guilt and despair is
> one of the worst tortures 
> I can think of.  No one who had just gone through
> that is likely to be very 
> forgiving or self-reflective.
> 
> So watch out for those Lestranges etc. when they get
> out of Azkaban.
> 
> Elkins wrote:
> 
> >Tabouli's identification is canonically sanctioned
> >(presumably she does not feel that Rowling *ever*
> gets
> 
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