[HPforGrownups] What Did Snape Do In GoF?/Snape and Krum

Edblanning at aol.com Edblanning at aol.com
Mon Feb 4 12:48:43 UTC 2002


No: HPFGUIDX 34607

In a message dated 03/02/02 18:45:07 GMT Standard Time, lav at tut.by writes:


>   While re-reading PS/SS today, a thought has crossed my
> mind. It is said in "Goblet of Fire", that Snape has done
> smth for Dumbledore's case, possibly contacted Death Eaters
> or else. But how could he do it?
>   Voldemort knows *for sure* what side Snape is on. Remember
> in PS/SS - Snape opposes Quirrell _directly_ and _openly_.
> So there's no chance Voldemort can be left uninformed about
> Snape. I would even suppose that Severus is #3 or #4 in VSL
> (Voldemort's Slaying List).
>   So the question is: what did Snape do? He couldn't contact
> DE's - most likely they all already know how good Severus
> is. Spy? No chance. It must be something not connected to
> Death Eaters and Voldemort directly. Possibly finding
> allies? Haven't the slightest idea.
> 

I'm really, really cross because AOL decided to shut itself down just as I 
was finishing this and I've had to start again.

Deep breath...

This question has deservedly been touched on before.
Regarding the PS/SS evidence,
1) Voldemort may not have been uner the turban all the time. I don't think he 
was when Harry found him drinking the unicorn blood.
2) The conversation Harry overhears in the Forbidden Forest is ambiguous to 
say the least, even if Voldy is present
3) The most worrying aspect to me is that Quirrel tells Harry in his final 
scene, when Voldy definitely *is* there, that Snape saved him in the 
Quidditch match and engineered refereeing the next match to protect him.

I think that in the first Voldy war, Snape must have been a double agent, 
(hopefully on the side of good). That way, he can persuade Voldy that he's 
been biding his time, keeping Dumbledore's trust, staying at the heart of 
things, where he will again have access to sensitive information.
Another thing in favour of his being a double agent is that it answers 
another difficulty brought up the other day: Why didn't Sirius hear prisoners 
in Azkaban complaining about Snape's betrayal in the same way as about 
Karkaroff's and Pettigrew's? If they thought it was all part of a ruse, that 
Snape was still on their side, they wouldn't mention him at all, would they? 
The Dementors may be blind, but they're not deaf. This would account for 
Sirius apparently not knowing that Snape was a DE.
We only have the same amount of information about Snape as Harry himself. 
Harry can only speculate on what Snape's been doing. The same applies to us.

In the graveyard scene, we are obviously meant to believe that Snape is one 
of the missing trio of DE's, therefore either the faithful servant, the one 
who's fled through fear or the deserter. It ain't necessarily so, ( feels 
burst of song coming on). We don't know whether his place was elsewhere in 
the circle.

Another Snape-thought while I'm on the subject.
There have been two short threads recently regarding Karkaroff.
One is the nature of his (hmm) 'relationship' with Krum, the other is whether 
he was the 'mentor' who recruited snape into the DEs.
On the latest reading of GoF, I couldn't help noticing a certain similarity 
between Snape and Krum. They are quite different in posture and movement and 
Snape isn't, thank goodness, bow-legged or duck-footed, but Krumb is 
described as thin, dark, sallow skinned, with a large, curved nose (thick, 
black eyebrows too, but I'll ignore them for now). And there's the Quidditch. 
Not in the same league, evidently, but canon strongly suggests that Snape's a 
decent player (why else would Lupin suggest that Snape was jealous of James' 
ability in particular, if he was hopeless, his jealousy would be more 
general) and to referee I would think he'd have to be pretty good ( if only 
to dodge the Weasley bludgers!)

Indicative of Karkaroff's taste? Or could these two be somehow related? Does 
Snape have east European connections? (Oh no, not vampires again!)

Eloise. In haste, not wishing to be cut off in full flow again.


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