Snapers or Sirists

[anmsmom333]

No: HPFGUIDX 34655

--- In HPforGrownups at y..., "kiricat2001" <Zarleycat at a...> wrote:
> I do find it interesting that people will come to Snape's defense
and cut him major slack regarding his DE status because ultimately he 
> rejects that.  And this is without knowing what potentially
horrible 
> things he may have done.  But, the fact that he came back to the
good 
> side is seen as him having recognized the error of his ways and 
> that's good enough to forgive him for any past transgressions.  
> 
> I will once again rant about "The Prank."  People seem to assume
that 
> Sirius wanted to kill Snape.  The only evidence we have in canon to 
> support that was Snape's statement to Dumbledore in PoA about
"Sirius 
> Black showed himself capable of murder at the age of sixteen." I do 
> believe that Snape thinks Sirius wanted to kill him.  But, that is 
> not proof of Sirius' intent.
> 
> I am not trying to excuse Sirius' actions.  They could have led to 
> injury or death as well as dire consequences to Remus, had the 
> werewolf done any damage.  They did not.  Did anyone die?  No.  Was 
> anyone serverely injured? No. Was Remus "outed" by this? No. Should 
> Sirius have received servere punishment?  Yes.  Did he?  We don't 
> know. Did Sirius apologize to Snape? To Lupin?  To James? We don't 
> know. 
> 
> So, to sum up, if we find out in future books that Snape did some 
> truly horrible things during his DE days, will people still feel he 
> deserves forgiveness because he has worked to rectify his mistakes?
 
> And, by the same token, if we hear Sirius apologize to Snape (and 
> mean it) will people put "The Prank" to rest?
> 
> Marianne, who will be really annoyed if either Snape or Sirius buys 
> the farm in the upcoming books

This is my first post though I have been lurking for 2 and a half
months and enjoying all the discussions. However, I cannot pass up
this opportunity. 
I am probably one of the rare HP fans who loves both Sirius AND Snape.
In fact, Sirius, Remus and Severus are my favorites (in that order).
Yes, Sirius is a tad impulsive and has a temper but he also is kind
hearted (in POA he gets all choked up and teary eyed when explaining
what happened to James and Lily and in GOF I think he shows true
concern for Harry's welfare on numerous occassions as well as is the
first "grownup" who does not belittle the trio and actually explains
things other grownups think they are "too young to understand."). 
As for "the prank", as Marianne points out (quite well I might add) -
we do not know if Sirius apologised or if he was punished and for that
matter we do not know if the intent was to kill or injure. IMO there
is more to the story than "sneaking around, trying to find out what we
were up to..." Though there is no canon evidence I always imagined
they (Sirius and Snape) liked the same girl (not Lily Evans but
another)and that was why the trick was played. Not to kill or injure
but to show what a "chicken" he was. 
Boys I hung around in high school were always playing "tricks" (I was
their Hermione-like conscience whose logic and reason sometimes went
unnoticed) none like this but there was an incident where they wanted
to mess up something another club built and "accidently" hurt a member
of that club. Needless to say they spent 3 days at home and temporary
suspension from the football team and though I had no prior knowledge
I had to endure repeated beratement from the other club about those
boys not being punished. But it is just IMO here that there is more
to this prank story. But I figure, if I love both "S-men" maybe, just
maybe...Besides, though there is no canon evidence to support my
theory...there is no canon evidence to prove Sirius meant to really
"physically hurt" Severus. 
And to defend my dear Sirius in the Shrieking Shack, remember he just
spent 12 years in a horrid prison which drives most folks insane so he
is definitely suffering from some post tramatic stress disorder and
might say and do rather rash things. I would not be surprised at all
if he has horrendous nightmares as well. How I would love to comfort
him. (grin)
As for Severus, well I think the reason I like him is the mystery
behind the man. He seems blunt and cold to students on many
occassions, yet sometimes there is subtle humor in his statements. I
really think he is the typical "bad boy who is really a good boy deep
down inside". And yes I do cut him some slack about the DE thing. He
He does afterall save Harry in PS/SS from falling to his death. If he
truely hated him would he have done so? IMO Severus picks on Harry
because he looks like James and that reminds him of MWPP which reminds
him of his school days and the infamous "prank".
On a side note - the comments in GOF about who is LV talking about
with the DE - IMO it is as follows: Karkaroff is the one who "left
forever" and will be killed, Crouch Jr is the "faithful servant" and
Severus is the "coward who will pay". And that is why D says "Severus,
you know what I must ask you to do." and Severus agrees but pales
because he knows he has to visit LV and take his punishment for "being
late to the meeting" and hope LV doesn't read his true intent of
supporting D and the "old crowd". So I do think Severus is on D's
side.
Sorry, this is so long. And Marianne, I will not only be annoyed if
either "S-man" dies but severely heartbroken.

Theresa (who wholeheartily agrees with Sirius fans that he is dead
sexy and would run off with him in a heartbeat but is still intrigued
by Severus but would only "be friends" with him.)