Sirius vs. Snape: Azcaban recovery.
finwitch
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Wed Feb 6 21:47:13 UTC 2002
No: HPFGUIDX 34791
--- In HPforGrownups at y..., "lucky_kari" <lucky_kari at y...> wrote:
> --- In HPforGrownups at y..., "finwitch" <finwitch at y...> wrote:
>
> > Once he was out, what is he to do?
> > Option #1: Go to Harry and see he's OK. "Hagrid said he's to live
> > with Lily's sister. Go there." (as he did, remember the dog)
> > Option #2: Get Pettigrew from Weasleys (who at the moment were
> > somewhere in Egypt - much too far!).
> > Option #3: Contact someone with the 'news' - but... Where is he
to
> > get parchment, ink etc. not to mention an Owl? Nor is Sirius
likely
> > to think that anyone would /believe/ the 'news' at all.
> > Under the circumstances, #1 is the only realistic option!
>
> Of course, there's Option #4. Send Dumbledore a letter, but I tend
to
> agree that Sirius believes Dumbledore's after him too. (As indeed,
> I'm sure he was, though if he had received the letter, he would
have
> looked into Ron's rat.)
I thought I ruled it out in Option #3 - no parchment, no ink -
nothing to write with or to send by. Nor are we told much about
Sirius' letters to any but Harry later.
> > He kept all dangers away from Harry (until
> > Harry got into the Knight-Bus) while Harry was dealing with his
> > emotions so busily he didn't notice anything.
>
> Did Sirius keep any dangers away from Harry at that point? The text
> only indicates that he took a look at him, and what dangers were
> there for Harry at the moment?
Fudge was extremely worried. What dangers... Drunk, nasty men, night-
time dangerous animals (magical or not). And well, not anything Harry
noticed, (they never got close enough).
> > Sirius propably saw Harry watching that Firebolt, wanting it so
> hard,
> > but not buying it. Sirius gets a thought: "Poor Harry. I'll buy
him
> > that Firebolt if it's the last thing I do..."
>
> I had thought he would have ordered the "Firebolt" after seeing
> Harry's Nimbus 2000 destroyed. Is there any indication in canon?
In book #3 when Harry was looking at the Firebolt - he wanted it so
much it hurt, but declined from buying it because he didn't know how
long his money would last... I don't recall if he noticed a dog,
though. Just that it'd been a practical solution as to when he bought
it. Sirius wanted to keep an eye on Harry - plus, during Christmas
he seemed to be at Hogwarts. He WAS there at Halloween - when did he
get to go shopping/into bank?
> >He goes to Gringotts
> > (Goblins don't gossip about their customers)
>
> True, but what of the other people in the bank? Here, I'd thought
it
> much more likely that he did all the Gringotts/Firebolt business by
> mail.
Could be, but how did he get to send any mail? He could have been in
his dog-form until there weren't any wizards or witches around,
visited his vault and turned into a dog again.
> Possibly he also sends a letter to
> > Lupin: "Protect Prongs's son".
> > No more. Lupin will know what it means and who sent it!
>
> This cannot be so. If Lupin received such a letter, he would have
> freaked out. As you say, he would know exactly who sent it. He
would
> take it as the missive of a sarcastic psychopath.
Yet, he might have given second thought on whether or not Sirius was
guilty. And.. Lupin probably knew that Sirius was Harry's godfather.
Yet, Sirius may have sent a *coded* letter telling Lupin to protect
Harry from Pettigrew. (using old childhood memories and such).
> >Sirius sees
> > Harry and Lupin going onto same car and gets on the train...
>
> Where? The train was crowded, and don't you think anyone would have
> noticed a big black dog on the train, or for that matter, on
Platform
> 9 3/4. And, the risk for Sirius, had Lupin seen him, was
tremendous.
> No, I don't think he was anywhere nearby. Instead, I'll vote for
him
> doing the obvious thing and apparating into the Hogsmeade area.
Why were Dementors on the train? Was Lupin sleeping because the
previous night was full moon? Couldn't have been too sharp (otherwise
he'd immediately recognised Pettigrew, although the rat probably
seemed familiar to him...)
> >AIR it was Lupin who
> > broke Ron's leg, not Sirius.
>
> No, Sirius broke Ron's leg pulling him under the Whomping Willow.
>
> > And, um, no - Sirius isn't fully recovered yet. He offers Harry a
> > home - but realises only afterwards that he might still need time
> to
> > recover (you possibly don't want me to...).
>
> I don't think that was Sirius's thought. After all, most children
> will not want to leave their families for someone they just met
half
> an hour of go, and he quickly realizes it. Imagine his shock when
> Harry seems all gung-ho about leaving the Dursleys.
Must have given him some thought about what sort of people Dursleys
were - though seeing Harry leave them in the first place...
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