LOLLIPOPS strikes back!

serenadust jmmears at prodigy.net
Thu Feb 7 17:51:16 UTC 2002


No: HPFGUIDX 34847

--- In HPforGrownups at y..., "Tabouli" <tabouli at u...> wrote:


> For another thing, why is Snape/Lily by definition mushy and 
sickening anyway?  I can't speak for my entire crew, of course, but 
in *MY* version of LOLLIPOPS there is absolutely no need for Snape 
and Lily to have had a relationship at any point.  In fact, I think 
this is very unlikely.  I say Snape had a huge, unrequited crush on 
Lily (and since when are those mushy?  They're torturous and 
humiliating!).
 that scenario more likely than that 
> 

? <> It may be just me, but I think the sort of boy Snape would have 
been (victimised, resentful, insecure, bitter, long-term grudge 
bearing) is a perfect candidate for putting the first pretty girl 
who is kind to him on a pedestal and hanging on to a monster 
unrequited crush for years.  She can do no wrong.  I *know* men like 
that!  In my experience there is definitely a type of man who never 
falls out of love with his first love, regardless of whether she 
dies or marries (or *he* marries) or commits some terrible crime or 
goes overseas for ten years.


Ok, Tabouli, you win.  I'm horribly prone to seasickness and as a 
result steadfastly avoid ships like the plague, but I can't find 
anything in canon or even suggested by canon to undermine this 
theory.  In fact, it's the only truly plausible scenario I've seen 
to explain Snapes extreme hatred for James.  The werewolf prank and 
James quidditch skills just never satisfied me as justification for 
Snapes extreme hatred of James.  I never bought the notion that 
James & co. made a point of tormenting Snape at school and in fact, 
canon suggests that it was Snape who was constantly bothering them 
(trying to find up what they were up to, trying to get them 
expelled, etc).
You are right about there being a type of teenage boy/man who would 
be inclined to fall hopelessly in love with a girl who had 
absolutely no interest in him, just because she made some sort of 
kind gesture on his behalf (particularly if no other girl ever 
showed any interest in him).  It happens all the time.
The best part of the LOLLIPOPS theory for me is that it allows me to 
still find Snape repulsive in terms of his personality, and explain 
his (not really all that noble) decision to abandon Voldy and work 
for Dumbledore.

Bring on the dramamine!

Jo Serenadust, who is hoping for a quiet cabin near the center of 
the ship







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