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[cindysphynx]

No: HPFGUIDX 34871

Judy wrote (on why Dumbledore accepts that Snape's conversion is 
true):

> How about: Dumbledore peers over his glasses (he does wear glasses, 
> right?) at Snape, his light blue eyes twinkling, and decides Snape 
is 
> telling the truth. 


Katze added:

>Here's something to go on...Harry has mentioned that it feels like D 
>is
> examining him when D looks at him. D also saw through Tom Riddle.
> Perhaps he was able to peer into Snape and see who he is, much like 
>the
> sorting hat with the children?

Hmmm.  If Dumbledore can really tell when people are telling the 
truth by peering over his glasses, he needs to get himself a new 
prescription.  :-)

The idea is tempting (er, let's call it Omnicient Dumbledore), but 
there are too many instances in which Dumbledore has no ability to 
peer into people's eyes and see if they are telling the truth.  
Crouch/Moody is certainly an instance in which Dumbledore was off his 
game.  Lockhart would be another.  Quirrell would be another.  The 
Marauders' and their werewolf adventures might be another.  I think 
Dumbledore might have decent intuition, but nothing more than that.

Canon, OK, I need some canon.  Dumbledore gives us a key line in the 
Pensieve chapter that means that something happened between himself 
and Snape that caused him to trust Snape's conversion.  When Harry 
asks about this point-blank, Dumbledore says, "That, Harry, is a 
matter between Professor Snape and myself."  If he had just followed 
his gut or instinct, he wouldn't have said that.  He would have said 
something like, "I just know."

Judy continued (about how Voldemort knew of Snape's obsession with 
Lily):

> Well, at some point, maybe Voldy asks Snape "Why 
> do you hate James Potter so much", and since Voldy can detect lies, 
> Snape has to fess up that he loves Lily. 

Hmmm.  Now we have Omnicient Voldemort battling Omnicient 
Dumbledore.  :-)

Boy, I don't know.  If Voldemort can detect lies, then why is he so 
darn, well, stupid?  He has his radar set to pick up that Snape loves 
Lily, but he never changes the channel to pick up that Snape is 
spying for Dumbledore?    

Judy again:

>Er, what's the "Up with Avery" Essay, 
> and where would Elkins post it?)
> 

Elkins mentioned in her "Subversive Canon" post that she had written 
a defense of Avery.  I'm thinking that if we ask nicely and 
collectively whisper sweet nothings in her ear, she might post it on 
the main list so we can all . . . hack it to bits.  :-)

Cindy (realizing that sometimes ya just gotta have faith, but doesn't 
think a war with Voldemort is one of those times)