[HPforGrownups] Re: Lupin, the Moon and the Bewitching Hour

Andrew MacIan andrew_macian at yahoo.com
Sat Jan 5 06:16:20 UTC 2002


No: HPFGUIDX 32812

Greetings from Andrew!

An interesting question....


I said in a previous post:

> >In re the boggart, I would also say that the Rule
> of
> >Similarity is in effect. The boggart *portrays* the
> >Moon, but it doesn't have the *effect* of the Moon.
> 
> >After all, in the other scenes with that particular
> >creature, the fear is due to the subject accepting
> the
> >illusion as the reality. Lupin cannot accept that,
> as
> >the effect must bring on transmogrification if the
> >effect is real.


--- blenberry <blenberry at altavista.com> wrote:

> In this case, how do you explain the
> boggart-dementor's effects on 
> Harry?  He *knows* it's a boggart.
> 
> sorry if this has been addressed elsewhere... I'm
> new :)

Not to worry; I'm not excatly one of the Founders,
either (interesting joke there, given the topic...)

As I said at the end of the paragraph (and it does
help to identify the person you're quoting, BTW), the
question is one of the actual effect of the Moon on a
were-- Lupin, in this case.  He *knows* it cannot *be*
the Moon for various reasons, one of the most telling
being that he must know where and when he is in any
given lunation (cycle of the Moon).  It has been
speculated in both mythological studies and modern
magickal theory that a were is, in essence, one of the
best state-shape clocks in existence for this reason.

Thus, Lupin can tell that the boggart knows what
frightens him more than anything else, but Lupin also
knows at his basic level of existence that the boggart
is nothing but a sham.

Harry, on the other hand, sees the dementor and
believes what is in essence the boggart's lie.  After
all, the effects that are produced are Harry's; all
the boggart does is to read a person's fears.  Thus,
all the boggart appears to do is induce the fear-state
from the target (Harry's) memories and previous
experience.


Clearer?  If not, don't hesitate to tell me so.

Cheers,

Drieux

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