Worst Harry - Snape Prowling - Name "Harry" - Dragons - DE kids

catlady_de_los_angeles catlady at wicca.net
Sun Jan 6 04:44:27 UTC 2002


No: HPFGUIDX 32857

Jo Ellen Rober wrote:

> I have not always gotten an explaination as to why Snape is roaming
> the castle in the middle of the night. 

I find it irresistable to suggest that he is on his way to or from a 
rendez-vous with a lover. Pippin has good arguments for Snape/Filch 
(altho' I can't imagine anyone *touching* that Filch person shown in 
the movie!) and others have suggested Dumbledore/Snape.

Less romantically, maybe he would rather make the effort to travel to 
a real WC instead of using the chamberpot in his bedroom.

Aja wrote:

> What's the worst thing *Harry's* ever done?

The heartless way he just brushes off Colin Creevey at every 
encounter, and Neville when everyone else has gone off to Hogsmeade.

Ai-Chan wrote:

> Harry: it's such a plain name. Nothing so highly can be expected
> of such a plain boy, right?  

It's not just a plain name, it's a very English name. Remember 
Agincourt: "For England, Harry, and St George!" My high school 
English teacher (in the 1971-72 school year) was a WWII veteran and 
told the class that he had heard the soldier in English regiments 
STILL using that battle-cry in WWII. 

And "Potter" -- leaving aside Pippin's reference to Potter's 
Field, traditional name of where the John and Jane Does are 
buried, potters work with clay which is a type of soil. What did 
Shakespeare say about: this rock, this clod, this little plot of 
earth ... this England?

His name is positioning him to replace Albus (reminiscent of 
'Albion', a poetic name for the island of Britain, which I believe to 
be based on the appearance of the *white* cliffs of Dover) as 
guardian of the island that has not been invaded since 1066.

Boggles wrote:

> (Although perhaps we should re-vamp the species names after 
> the species given in FBaWTFT - Draco hebrideae, Draco norweii, 
> Quetzalcoatlus peruvii, Lunga sinesis, etc. 

Quetzalcoatlus? I had thought that the quetzalcoatl (well, actually 
the coatl 'cloud serpent') would be a type of thunderbird -- 
Quetzalcoatl is (a/the) Feathered serpent who brings wind, clouds, 
and rain -- thunderbirds have feathers and bring rain, storms, 
lightning and thunder -- we can hypothesize that thunderbirds have 
rather more reptilian features (scaly skin, long snakey bodies, 
fangs, venom) than generally assumed. Evidence? Why would we need 
evidence? Well, okay, snakes and lightning cause the same kind of 
magical maladies and are treated by the same kinds of rituals and 
sandpaintings, in Navajo healing tradition.

I am totally bugged, incidentally, by the absence of thunderbirds 
from FB.

And I think it would comfort me to be pursuaded that the Peruvian 
(Short-Snout, was it?) dragon was really a thunderbird. Does it 
have feathers?

Christi wrote:

> In any case, we do know that Draco is Lucius' son, and it seems 
> likely that the the Crabbe and Goyle(Harry's age) are the sons of
> the Crabbe and Goyle(DEs). 

In my version of the Potterverse, Voldemort discovered in autumn 
of 1979 (from astrology or a prophecy) that a boy with special 
magical powers or destiny would be born in the summer of 1980, so he 
immediately ordered all his inner-circle DEs to immediately start 
making babies, in hopes that the predicted boy would be born to one 
of his loyal followers and raised to be loyal to him and thus the 
powers would be his to make use of. Thus, Draco Malfoy and Vincent 
Crabbe and Gregory Goyle and (in my opinion) the Nott kid you 
mentioned. And (in my opinion) Bulstrode and Parkinson and Zabini.

Such loyal followers as the Lestranges would also have tried to obey 
their lord... if they succeeded, what would have been done with the 
child when both parents were sent to Azkaban? Perhaps assigned by the 
MoM to foster parents known to be strong followers of the Light Side, 
in hopes of raising her not to follow her parents? Perhaps ignored by 
the MoM but informally adopted by the guardian specified in her 
parents' will or by their relatives? There is no Lestrange child in 
JKR's list of Harry's year-mates, but might her foster parents have 
given her their surname to protect her from the notoriety of her 
parents? MAYBE SHE IS TRACEY DAVIS ON JKR'S LIST! (post #32313).

However, if there are only 40 kids in Harry's year, clearly most of 
the DEs with places in that circle didn't have babies when they were 
supposed to (or the babies didn't survive). Possible reasons? Doing 
Unforgiveable Curses reduces fertility? Many of the Death Eaters were 
already elderly? Most of the then-young men among them were unable to 
pursaude any witches to marry them, not even by threatening to kill 
her and her entire family if she refused?
  





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