Inherent conflict in R/H - H/H - Teaching quality (Trelawney)

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No: HPFGUIDX 33004

> Penny wrote:
> 
> >If the romance angle is going to at all affect the bigger events, 
then 
> >there must be conflict.

True, but I myself do not assume that a romantic angle will greatly 
affect the bigger events, at all.  

At any rate, as far as shippiness is concerned, I've stopped (with 
all due respect, of course) reading onlist discussions of 
interpretations of ships and ship-wishes and decided to go back to 
what my initial, knee-jerk interpretation was, i.e. that if any ship 
is going to happen, R/H and possibly H/G are most likely.  

On the other hand, if shippiness was going to cause conflict, I could 
easily see it being the result of a misperception.  I.e., Ron, being 
hung up on being poor and unfamous compared to Harry who is rich and 
famous and gets all the attention, might perceive, baselessly, that 
the object of his crush (Hermione) would obviously (to Ron's mind) 
prefer Harry because Harry gets everything, grr arg [insert more 
petty jealousy here].  But that would really annoy me and I would 
hope that it would have zero affect on events on a grand scale, 
because I'm not fond of soap operas of that ilk.

Personally, I hope that ships remain as significant as they are per 
GoF ~ i.e., they are there, they are important to the adolescents 
involved, but they fall to the wayside when the big stuff starts 
coming down.  We shall see, at any rate!

Amy Z. wrote, re Hermy's reaction to Rita Skeeter:
> What 
I divine 
> from the sequence of events is that [Hermione is] particularly 
ticked off 
> about/intrigued by Rita's spying ("how did she know?" GF 27); even 
then, 
> she's quite calm about it until people start sending her Bubotuber 
pus by 
> owl.  That's when she says she's going to get her back (ch. 28).  
Before 
> that, she's angry on behalf of Hagrid and Harry (and Bagman):  "You 
horrible 
> woman . . . anything for a story" (24).

You know, I agree with your interpretation of when Hermione started 
to get annoyed, but as an aside, I think Hermione was rather enjoying 
the attention she was getting.  To that point, she'd been seen only 
as mousy, nerdy, annoying, et al; suddenly, not only is a modern 
sports icon making gentlemanly advances on her, but she's being 
bandied about as some sort of underage seductress, capable of using 
her mysterious wiles against the two (arguably) most famous boys in 
the wizarding world. She doesn't seem to particularly fancy either of 
them, but the attention is fun, imho. Or doesn't anyone else get a 
bit of a 'Go me!' vibe off of Hermy about this?  :-P  It's just that 
once the really nasty kick-back starts (bobotuber pus by owl, but 
even worse, being scorned by Mrs. Weasley) that she starts to feel 
lousy on her own behalf.  

Amy Z. again:
> Just to make sure I make enemies of both of you, though <g>, I 
don't think 
> Trelawney was disappointed because she saw Buckbeak beheaded.  She 
was 
> disappointed because she's a bloodthirsty old bat who livens up her 
dull 
> life by looking for horrors in other people's lives, and if she 
doesn't find 
> them, by making them up.

Yeppers.  Absolutely agree with you.  Trelawney is full of hot air, 
the only exception being the strange trance she went into at the end 
of PoA.  As long as she's concious, she's clueless, and the 
embodiment of a quack psychic.  (We shall make enemies together, 
eh?  :-)

> Amy Z
> who "meets tall, dark strangers," "has a lucky break," and "finds 
family and 
> money concerns at the forefront" every single day of her life

LMAO.  Been to visit Trelawney, have you?

Mahoney