Inherent conflict in R/H - H/H - Teaching quality (Trelawney)

babelfisherperson babelfisherperson at yahoo.com
Tue Jan 8 22:53:20 UTC 2002


No: HPFGUIDX 33035

--- In HPforGrownups at y..., "lucky_kari" <lucky_kari at y...> wrote:
> Aren't you assuming that Ginny will always stay a fangirl? It was
> so in CoS, but I'm not sure it's really true anymore, and I'm sure
> it will not be true in any way by the end of the series, just as
> I'm sure that Neville will have got over his inferiority complex.
> She still is subsceptible to Harry, but is there any indication
> she's acting like the insufferably immature 11 year old she once
> was. She's growing up, for heaven's sakes, just like Harry, Ron,
> and Hermione are. Ron and Harry never noticed the opposite sex
> until they were 14. Ginny at 11 was obsessed with Harry, but not in
> a serious fashion. She idolized Harry as 11 year old girls do, not
> as immature young women do. She is, therefore, not comparable to a
> groupie.

Actually, her crush on Harry in CoS was quite similar to real-life 
girls of that age having crushes on Leonardo DiCaprio or their their 
favorite boy band member. And perhaps she's grown out of that, but I 
don't see anything more there. So if she's gotten over that, then 
there isn't even a one-way attraction with regard to H/G.

> Part of her 11 year old act was to make obvious, while keeping
> secret, her crush on Harry. Obnoxious behaviour like peeking out
> behind walls at him? Have we seen anything like that recently? In
> GoF, she has a nice scene, which really shows her maturing, where
> she refuses to betray Hermione's trust, keeps faith with Neville
> despite her inclinations, and comes off as a very ladylike figure,
> a contrast to her brother Ron, who is being extremely rude,
> pestering Hermione, and badmouthing Neville. She can have ordinary
> conversations with Harry now. She doesn't seek him out, as far as
> we can see. 
>
> Ginny's 11 year old crush on Harry was typical, but it didn't have
> the same sort of emotional content as Viktor's crush on Hermione
> (ugghh). Now, that she is older, she still has feelings for Harry,
> but what she has is more like real adult love than before. It's the
> difference between enjoying the experience of feeling like you
> think being in love would feel, and actually being in love, even if
> shallowly and for a short time.

Well, even if she does still have a crush on Harry, that doesn't make 
it more than a crush. 13-year-olds are just as capable of having 
meaningless crushes as 11-year-olds. She's STILL not "in love" with 
Harry. For heaven's sake, she doens't even really know him. She's 
barely ever talked to him. And I'm a firm believer that it's 
impossible to love somebody you don't even know.

> But I want her for Neville. :-)

There's something we can agree on, at least. :)

Red XIV





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