New thought(!) on H/H (SHIP)-old thought on H/G
pippin_999
foxmoth at qnet.com
Wed Jan 9 15:35:19 UTC 2002
No: HPFGUIDX 33076
--- In HPforGrownups at y..., "babelfisherperson"
<babelfisherperson at y...> wrote:
> --- In HPforGrownups at y..., "pippin_999" <foxmoth at q...> wrote:
> > But I still hold for H/G as the ultimate resolution...that cameo
> > at the beginning of SS/PS is otherwise inexplicable. She's
not in
> > the book to be the villain, like Quirrel, she's not there to give
> > Harry something like Ollivander, she's not a member of the
Old
> > Crowd or a clue like Flamel. She's just the first eligible
female
> > Harry sees...
>
> That has got to be, bar none, the weakest ship arguement I've
ever
> heard. Setting aside the ridiculousness of the notion that Harry
MUST
> end up falling in love with "the first eligible female" he sees,
> there are most certainly other, far less cliché, reasons for
Ginny to
> be there. JKR probably already intended for Ginny to have an
> important (albeit mostly behind-the-scenes) role in the 2nd
book, so
> it makes sense for her to be given at least a passing
introduction in
> the 1st. And her presence shows that Ron has a younger
sister. Those
> are reason enough for Ginny to be there. Remember, JKR
already knew
> that Harry Potter would be a series when she was writing PS.
So just
> because Ginny served no particular purpose in that book
(neither, I
> must point out, do the various random Hogwarts students who
are
> mentioned at the Sorting Ceremony but who Harry has no
interaction
> whatsoever with) doesn't mean she was introduced
specifically to be a
> future love interest for Harry.
How can it be both a ridiculous notion (something that would
never happen) and a cliche (an utterly predictable development)?
I must point out that JKR manages to establish that Bill and
Charlie exist without dragging them onto the platform at King's
Cross or giving them a cameo, even though Charlie plays a
larger part in the first book than Ginny does.
Penny said:
>> The Weasleys
could hardly afford a child-minder for that shortish trek to King's
Cross; Ginny would necessarily be with her mum. She'd also
want to see her brothers off;<<
If Mrs. W has no one to leave her with, then it's not Ginny's first
time at King's Cross, so why on earth is Ginny so excited? And
who needs a Childminder? Are we to suppose that poor Ginny's
spent her first 10 years in social isolation out at The Burrow?
She couldn't have Floo'd over to visit a friend or one of those
hypothetical Weasley cousins? ? I'm sure it would have been
much easier on Molly to leave Ginny behind than to try to keep
track of her in the station.
I just re-read the platform scene...you could just as well see the
hand holding as Mrs. Weasley being over-protective(Now hold
my hand dear, this is a busy place and we don't want you getting
lost,do we)...and the first "Oh mum, can I go..." as Ginny's
attempt to get away and look at the Muggle shops or something.
She cries and chases after the train, which makes me think she
must be at least nine..old enough to get away with running on a
railway platform (my mother would have screamed for fear I'd
slip and fall under the wheels), and old enough to feel
sentimental that her last brother's on his way to boarding school.
If it was mere separation anxiety she wouldn't be laughing too.
Pippin
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