Pulling up my GIANTCUSHION, and some gender-spiked musings (with a side of literary archetypes)

[serenadust]

No: HPFGUIDX 33163

--- In HPforGrownups at y..., Julie aka Viola <viola_1895 at y...> wrote:
> --- In HPforGrownups at y..., "Tabouli" <tabouli at u...>
> wrote:
>   
> > G.I.A.N.T.C.U.S.H.I.O.N. (Ginny Isn't A Naive,
> Trivial Child Unworthy of Securing Harry's Interest:
> Object Now!)


 Thanks Tabouli! This is one of your better efforts.  Not only does 
it get the point across, it sound so comfy/cozy and Weasley-ish.

Julie wrote:
> > 
> Pre-fandom, I had very little feeling about Hermione
> or Ginny -- one way or the other. I didn't dislike
> either, didn't love either. (Though I did think Ginny
> was a character to watch post-CoS.) Now, I still like
> Hermione in canon, and I'm very intrigued by where
> Ginny's character is going to go. But, I have big
> problems with the fanon perceptions of both.
> After spending some time in the fandom, I've come to
> the conclusion that the most damning point "against"
> Ginny (or Fleur, or Cho, et al) is that she is Not
> Hermione. People are extremely protective of Hermione
> because an overwhelmingly large number of fans seem to
> identify very strongly with her. There isn't anything
> wrong with that, but I do think it affects the way
> other female characters are perceived.



 This is one reason I gave up on fanfic.  I suspect the widespread 
hostility to Ginny/Cho and the other girls is that they are perceived 
as threatening to the H/H ship.  This is the only reason I can see 
for sticking poor Ginny with Malfoy so often in fanon (a fate worse 
than Death IMO).
> 


Julie again:
> 
> And I'm not saying this because _I_ identify with
> Ginny. I don't. As a teenager I was nothing like her
> (what we've seen of her) at all. If I had to pick
> someone from the Potterverse who best represents my
> teenage self, it's probably Fleur. ^_^; Hey, at least
> I admit it. 


Wow, lucky you, Julie.  I was a Hermione who would have loved to have 
been a Fleur (although I never would have admitted it at the time).


Julie again:
> Fleur!flashbacks. Visiting my family over the
> holidays, my brother said to me, "Uh, Julie? You're
> Cordelia-ing again." ^_^;; But anyway...)


 Sorry, who's Cordelia?
> 
Julie wrote:
> 
> I do agree, though, that OBHWF gives me the itchies.
> But it's not really an argument against the pairing if
> done right. The problem with it, to my mind, is in the
> execution. (I am, btw, a very dedicated non-shipper.

I think that JKR is perfectly capable of executing OBHWF in a way 
that most readers would be fine with (if that's where she wants to 
go). I think that people like this theory mainly because everyone 
ends up happy this way.  The other theories (FITD and HGG) require 
that Ron and Ginny end up dead/evil or punished in some way.  I still 
don't get the hostility toward the two of them.


Jo
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