Immortality / LOLLIPOPS / Gay / Fawcett / Muggle Studies

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No: HPFGUIDX 33296

Mercia Meglet wrote:

> it is clear to me that Voldemort's obsession is not just the 
> standard evil dictator's aim of world domination but to achieve 
> immortality in this world and to pass on that to his selected 
> followers. 

I believe that Voldemort has made it clear in canon that he has 
worked very hard to gain immortality for himself. I suspect that he 
has promised immortality to his followers, because that is one very 
effective way of recruiting certain people, but I suspect that he 
has no intention of actually doing it. 

> I can't imagine she would call him theft of death without good 
> reason.

As you suggest, he could be Thief from Death or Flight from Death 
because of his quest for immortality, to steal his life away from 
death. He could also be Flight of Death because he swoops down on 
people and kills them, or Thief of Death because he has 'stolen' 
(from God's Angel of Death, from Nature, from Fate, whatever) the 
power to give death (kill people). I perceive a contradiction between 
his desire to never die and his impulse to destroy pretty much 
everything he comes across: he seems not to have thought of how will 
he live without a support system (environment, food, air, servants, 
etc).

Catherine grandisiowa wrote:

> Not likely, given Snapes's connections, that he's going to be 
> attracted to a Mudblood.

There is no evidence that Snape is opposed to Muggle-born witches and 
wizards: I can't think of any example of him picking worse on a 
Muggle-born than a Pureblood of the same House and similar Potions 
ability. I don't believe he joined the Death Eaters because he wanted 
to purify the wizarding world of Muggle genes: he may have been 
hoping to gain power, wealth, or immortality; he may have been going 
along with his friends out of loyalty; perhaps he welcomed any 
opportunity to oppose James...

Andrew mrgrrragh (Mr. Grrragh? related to Aragh the English wolf?) 
wrote:

> Are any of the HP characters gay? And will JKR write about that? 

That's a question that, historically, has started a number of feuds 
and flame wars. I suspect that JKR won't write about it, to avoid 
conflict with upset Muggles. However, she could, without being 
extraneous.

Me, I think it would be hysterically funny to have scene where all 
the Weasleys (and Harry and Hermione and maybe Viktor) are at the 
Burrow and Fleur turns up on some excuse but really to chase Bill, 
and Bill is the only male not affected by her: Ron and Fred and 
George and Charlie are blatantly following her around with their 
tongues hanging out, Percy (and Viktor, if present) are always making 
excuses to wander up to her and start bragging, Arthur (whenever in 
her presence) gazes at at her with a reminiscent smile, Harry stares 
at her with a stunned expression whenever she's around --- and Bill 
makes the same polite conversation as with any guest. She finally 
corners Bill alone and asks what the hell is going on, and he 
explains: "I like you just fine as a friend, and I know you're a very 
pretty woman (I'm not blind), but I've never been interested in women 
that way; I've always been gay."

Which could be followed, later in the book, by a scene where Molly is 
nagging Bill to find a nice young witch to marry and settle down and 
give her grandchildren, and he gets exasperated enough that he 
finally tells her: "I've already found the person with whom I want to 
spend the rest of my life, and it isn't a witch." Molly assumes it's 
a Muggle girl and gets angry that Bill apparently thought that she 
would be prejudiced against a Muggle daughter-in-law. When Bill 
replies: "Not a Muggle," Molly gets even worse distressed and gasps: 
"Not a Veela!" Finally, Bill tells her: "Not a Muggle, not a Veela, 
not a witch: a wizard named Jacques Chemaly from Lebanon, whom I met 
in Egypt." Then we get to see the rest of the Weasleys getting 
ddjusted to this new information, and it's Harry and Hermione who 
lecture them on gay rights (which Harry will have seen on the 
television news while at the Dursleys, and approve of because the 
Dursleys so loudly disapprove). 

Hollydaze wrote:

> we keep seeing the name Fawcett mentioned (snip)
> the Fawcetts Live somewhere near the Weasleys (snip)
> a "Miss Fawcett" at the Duelling club (snip)
> There is a Fawcett in the bushes that Snape blasts at the Yule
> Ball, a female Fawcett who is in Hufflepuff. (snip)
> This one also mentions a Fawcett in Hufflepuff
 
Your last example is a Miss Fawcett of RAVENCLAW: when Fred and 
George try to use Aging Potion to cross the Age Line to put their 
names in the Goblet of Fire (which raises a whole 'nother question: 
how would one of them function as Champion without the other?) and 
grow long beards, Dumbledore says: "I suggest you both go up to Madam 
Pomfrey. She is already tending to Miss Fawcett, of Ravenclaw, and Mr 
Summers, of Hufflepuff, both of whom decided to age themselves up a 
little, too." 

I believe that the two Miss Fawcetts are sisters and the Fawcetts who 
live near the Weasleys are their parents. I have invented a whole 
fanfic for them: Miss Fawcett of Hufflepuff is a sixth year when 
caught in the rosebush and her name is Ellie (short for Electra 
Elizabeth) and her boyfriend Stebbins of Ravenclaw is also a sixth 
year and his name is Andy (short for Androcles Josephus). Miss 
Fawcett of Ravenclaw is one year younger, a fifth-year at that time, 
thus a roommate of Cho Chang, and she is Cho's very best friend and 
they are both mad for Quidditch even tho' Cho made the team and Mary 
didn't. The implausible list of names who checked out Quidditch 
Through the Ages on implausible dates are all students who are mad 
for Quidditch, so the Fawcett on that list must be Mary, altho' the 
initial on the list is S. She must be going by her middle name due to 
hatred of her first name. What name that starts with S would be so 
hated? Sexagunda! ANY young girl would HATE being called Sex-again-da. 

And I decided that Mr. Summers of Hufflepuff must be Mary's 
Hufflepuff boyfriend Sylvanus (Van for short), whom I had already 
invented for the fic but not given a last name yet. My excuse is that 
a stereotypic Hufflepuff would not use magic to break a rule unless 
urged to do so by a close friend, so the two violators mentioned by 
Dumbledore were a team, not separate incidents.

Ev vy wrote:

> (I don't see Slytherins willingly attending Muggle studies) 

Muggle Studies is said to be an easy course, so I imagine Crabbe and 
Goyle are taking it while Draco is taking Arithmancy and Ancient 
Runes. 

> I don't know British law, but in Poland parents who don't send
> their children to school may get arrested, as learning is 
> obligatory. OK, I've heard about home-teaching or rather
> self-education, but I'm not sure if it's acceptable in the UK or
> the USA. (snip) But when those kids are accepted to Hogwarts,
> they disappear form the Muggle world. So what happens? Are there
> any legal consequences?  

There is home-schooling in USA. I believe the wizarding folk are 
experienced and competent at using magic to get around Muggle laws. I 
believe that Wizard-born kids (and that might apply to half-and-
half kids from intact marriages) aren't ever mentioned in any Muggle 
records (not born in Muggle hospital, no Muggle birth certificate, 
etc) until they decide they want to live as Muggles for a while (as 
an adventure) and then all the paperwork (and computer records) they 
need magically appear in the right places (birth certificate, school 
records, tax records, whatever is needed to get on National Health, 
etc). Muggle-born kids who go to the wizarding world would start 
having documentation in the Muggle world, but maybe it would all 
vanish during the school year (so authorities never knew they existed 
so never wondered why they weren't in school) but re-appear during 
summer holidays. If Hermione decided to go to St. Andrews after 
Hogwarts, she would be supplied with complete records of gone to a 
foreign school but gotten plenty of O-levels and A-levels.