First Glances Re: Ginny and Harry (SHIP)

elfundeb djdwjt at aol.com
Sun Jan 13 13:16:56 UTC 2002


No: HPFGUIDX 33329

--- In HPforGrownups at y..., "lucky_kari" <lucky_kari at y...> wrote:
> --- In HPforGrownups at y..., Penny & Bryce <pennylin at s...> wrote:
> > On a related point, could Pippin (or anyone for that matter) give 
me 
> > some examples of novels where this convention (first girl boy 
sees 
> is 
> > the one he is fated to be with) is used?  I *honestly* can't 
think 
> of 
> > any, which is another stumbling block to my perception of the 
theory 
> in 
> > general.  :--)
> 
> It works with both the sexes, of course. It doesn't necessarily 
have 
> to be the exactly first person you see. But there is a tradition of 
a 
> person whom you see the near the beginning, note in a non-romantic 
way 
> and, after a long period in which you are looking in completely 
> different directions, you end up with. 
> 
One author who has used variations of this plot scenario more than 
once is Jane Austen, whom JKR has cited as one of her favorite 
authors numerous times:

Emma:  Knightley & Emma have longstanding nonromantic relationship 
but Knightley has been waiting for her to grow up, whereupon Emma  
deludes herself into thinking she is attracted to Frank Churchill (of 
whom Knightley is very jealous); Emma finally realizes she loves 
Knightley, who has been under her nose all the time.

Mansfield Park (MP):  Fanny has crush on Edmund dating from childhood 
which matures into something more, waits and suffers in silence while 
Edmund becomes infatuated with Mary, even refusing marriage offer 
from highly eligible suitor though she has no hope of Edmund, Edmund 
finally sees through Mary and notices what was under his nose all the 
time.

Sense & Sensibility:  Col. Brandon is in love with Marianne but 
Marianne thinks he is too old.  He waits patiently while she has 
romance with Willoughby whom Brandon knows to be morally unsuitable 
(I think) and recovers from the heartbreak Willoughby causes, then 
makes his move.  Marianne finally realizes she is in fact in love 
with Brandon, whom she has already married.

Other parallels:  In Emma and MP, Fanny and Knightley are practically 
members of the family, much as Harry has become a surrogate member of 
the Weasley family.
Ginny to date is undeveloped and seems to act younger than her 
chronological age, much as Fanny was at the beginning of MP.  Ginny 
seems to be beginning to mature, as Fanny did during the course of 
MP, but the crush is not going away.  

Bottom line, I can see JKR possibly going in this direction even if 
there seems to be little canonical support for it to date.  Perhaps 
Harry would finally "notice" her in a different way if she does 
something dramatic.  For example, she might try to 
sacrifice herself for Harry at some point, since she owes a debt to 
him for rescuing her from the Chamber of Secrets.  He would 
definitely notice that.  Of course, she could also lose her life in 
the attempt . . . .

Debbie 









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