Trelawney, Ron's predictions, Harry's Betrayer

[Katze]

No: HPFGUIDX 33568

Edblanning at aol.com wrote:

> Hear hear!
> 
> On the way back from school yesterday we were listening to the part of PoA
> where she makes her prediction of Voldemort's return.
> 
> What struck me was her incredulity when Harry relates her prediction back to
> her. Her gift seems to be so fitful that she doesn't even recognise it/
> expect it when it happens. And then, in an apparent, if unintentional,
> admission she protests that she would never have predicted something so
> unlikely.
> 
>  'Ha! Got you, you old fraud!' was my reaction.

I completely agree...she doesn't even entertain the thought that she
made the prediction without her knowing. She's so dismissive of what the
kids say, and that bugs me. If they don't predict what she wants then
she believes that they aren't listening. I agree with Ron in PoA, "she's
a right old fraud."

> 
>  It's not that I think she has no gift at all, just that she hasn't harnassed
> it. I don't think we can tell anything from the other predictions she's made:
> nothing that goodness knows how many fake mediums/fortune tellers haven't
> achieved, whether stage performers or masquerading as genuine.

There are people who just read others very well, like Miss Cleo and John
Edwards on the sci-fi channel here in the states. Some people are just
very intuitive with others. My father-in-law is one of the best, and
when he says something about someone, I keep and ear open. I usually
take the skeptical view when it comes to predicting anything. I strongly
believe in following my gut, but I'm not going tell others what's
happening in their lives based on their gut with no facts available.
Though...I also fancy that idea of true seer's.

We also choose to interpret Trelawney's predictions. She constantly
predicts Harry's death, but as Hermione points out, everyone knows Harry
is constantly in mortal danger (whatcha ya wanna bet Harry name will be
added to the Weasley clock?). McGonagall states that Trelawney loves to
open her class with the prediction of a student's death, and none of
them have died yet! We also have no idea what Lavender was dreading. Her
rabbit died before Oct 16, she just happened to get the news on that
date. As for Neville, I think it was likely for him to break a cup
anyway, and Trelawney could've picked up on his nervousness. I'm not
willing to give her that one just yet.

I think JKR is setting us up for someone else to be a seer. I think it
might be Ron. He's just joking with Harry about the betrayer and the
windfall of money. Was it also Ron who made the prediction that he would
drown? Does anyone have GoF that they could pull out and see what Ron
predicted? I would, but I've lent my book to a friend (who's slowly
becoming a fan). We're going to have to a keep a close eye on Ron. I see
great things for him. ;-)

Have any of us considered that Moody might have been the "betrayer"? For
the entire book, Harry thought that 'Moody' was on his side, and at the
end of the book, it was 'Moody' who betrayed him to Voldemort. It's also
possible that it hasn't happened yet, if Ron is correct, which I think
he is.

-Katze