Harry that Heathen and Feeling Moody [Was Re: Wiz-Mug marriage/commentary]
ladjables
ladjables at yahoo.com
Fri Jan 18 20:35:00 UTC 2002
No: HPFGUIDX 33705
Hello Everyone,
I promised myself I wouldn't respond to Kimball's post but this
morning my newspaper printed another Anti-Potter letter, and then it
became patently clear I was surrounded. At least the excellent
rebuttal posts have cheered me up. Just some thoughts:
--- In HPforGrownups at y..., Tabouli..> wrote:
> > And as for Tolkien, obviously a clear sign that someone fits into
> the Evil category of humanity is ugliness! A fine Judeo-Christian
> education for the children. Nothing like that unambiguous
> distinction between Good (where all people are fair and wise) and
> Evil (where all people are ugly and foolish and come to a bad end
>on Legolas' arrows), eh? Moral stuff.
This is what is really worrisome about posts like Kimball's, no
matter how well thought out. What bothers him about Harry Potter is
the book's portrayal of morality as complex; it's precisely because
it's not black-and-white that Kimball dislikes it. His need to
compartmentalize good and evil, to constantly categorize and make
divisions concerning morality, reflects the kind of logic that is
very dangerous, that can be (and has been) used to justify anything
from genocide to slavery.
Mahoney:
> I'm not particularly well-read in terms of the Bible, but I know a
> little bit. In early Hebrew prophecies, it was said that a
> messenger would be sent ahead of the Messiah to prepare the masses
> for him...and then who appears, but John the Baptist, a mangy, ill-
> clothed, ill-kempt guy who wandered the wilds and was in fact in
> prison when Christ started public ministry. Doh.
>
> Christ himself was an enormous rule-breaker. One of the biggest
> reasons that people refused to believe that he was the Messiah sent
> from God was because (drum roll) he ate dinner with anybody who
> would sit down with him. That doesn't sound particularly bad
> these days, but back then the meal was considered by Jews to be a
>sort of recreation of the covenant between God and his people, and
>only the clean, and the believers, were allowed to share a table
>with God's chosen people. And yet Christ *invited* Gentiles,
>criminals, the poor, the sick, and the hated to eat meals with him.
>And why did he break that very important rule? To help people; to
>right wrongs and undo injustices; to demonstrate that in real life,
>in God's world, people have to look beyond the easy, black and
white choices, and do what is *right* rather than what is easy and
>superficial.
Exactly. Something Dumbledore emphasizes in his speech at the end of
Goblet of Fire. And I've always liked Paul's words, follow the
spirit and not the letter of the law. So what book is more morally
murky than the Bible? If I were Kimball, I would keep my kids away
from the Good Book.
Mahoney continues:
> At any rate, I also agree with whomever it was that pointed out
that not everyone believes in nor cares to interpret life, morality,
and Harry Potter based on Judeo-Christian tenets. Hi, agnostics?
> Muslims, Buddhists, Wiccans, and everyone else in the world? I
>truly dislike the idea that just because a child raised in a
>Christian household *might* (and this that is *highly* debatable,
>and insulting to the intellectual capabilities of the young) be
>morally confused by events in Harry Potter, that must mean that
>every child in every environment and experiencing all manner of
>differing world views will also. Pfah. Balderdash.
Thank you. I would also love to get Kimball's take on Haiti, where
the official religion is vodun but most people believe in God-a
fusion of Christianity and the occult if you like! Then again that
might cause a nervous breakdown. But in all seriousness, Mr. Kimball
is entitled to his opinion, I just have no intention of spending any
more time meditating on it.
The second part of my post regards Mad-Eye Moody, would anyone care
to join me in guessing when this colourful character will meet his
end? Okay, that was callous, but I do engage in this morbid pastime
from time to time. I know there's been much speculation about who
Ms. Rowling will kill next, and I've noticed no-one has suggested
Moody, a really interesting character, even if it WAS Crouch jr as
Moody. If you have mentioned Moody I apologise for the oversight.
Hagrid has been mentioned, Lupin, Sirius, Dumbledore, but it would be
interesting to see what role she has planned for this ex-Auror (with
the real Dark Forces fighting experience) in the upcoming denouement,
or, if it's not to be an unravelling of the plot, more a tying up of
loose ends, then the upcoming knot. Any thoughts would be
appreciated.
Ama
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