[HPforGrownups] Re: Wizarding justice (was use of unforgivable curses)

Edblanning at aol.com Edblanning at aol.com
Sun Jan 20 16:44:50 UTC 2002


No: HPFGUIDX 33784

In a message dated 17/01/02 20:29:14 GMT Standard Time, mlfrasher at aol.com 
writes:


> You can say that ethically it's up to the person who uses the curse/weapon, 
> but some things are so horrible that no matter who uses them -- you are 
> automatically put in the arena of public opinion.  I can't think of an 
> instance where kedavara was used and someone said, "Oh what a great idea!"  
> The impression I get is that it's so bad, people don't even like to mention 
> it, let alone use it.  There have been constant reminders throughout the 
> series that curses like AK and much of the DA aren't widely talked about 
> (except in hushed tones or for ppl specially trained in them - far and few) 
> and students were shocked when Moody said he was going to teach them.  

How were Lupin and Sirius going to kill Pettigrew?
For Sirius, not so much of an issue (I'm going to commit the *murder* for 
which I was imprisoned)....But for Lupin?
Would the MoM accept this summary kind of justice? Perhaps,under the 
circumstances, but even Lupin doesn't seem to consider taking Petigrew up to 
the Castle to be brought to justice.

And what about the Dementor's kiss?
At what point is it decided to let the Dementors perform this, rather than 
sending someone to (or back to ) Azkaban? It seems to be a bit ad hoc. 
Strange that Beaky can have an appeal against a death sentence, whilst Crouch 
is just, to all intents and purposes, disposed of, without his story being 
officially told. Yes, we know the details, but all Fudge knows is that he's 
alive and been recaptured. He doesn't even believe Harry's story that Crouch 
has been helping Voldy.
Sirius had a trial, as Dumbledore testified at it. I should have thought that 
from the wizarding point of view, if anyone qualified for a kiss, it was him, 
given the number of people he was supposed to have killed.

And then there's Azkaban itself. Seems a bit much for minor misdemeanors. How 
are they dealt with? Or do wizards only commit crimes on a grand scale?



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