Mottoes / Werewolf Snape / Snape Guilt/ TV Bio / other wiz schools / wiz uni

[catlady_de_los_angeles]

No: HPFGUIDX 33882

Thank you Finwitch, I LOVE your suggestion for Slytherin and can't 
imaginen HOW I failed to think of your suggestion for Gryffindor, 
it's so perfect.

Thank you, Drieux, for replying on OT, but I KNOW where I stole 
some of those mottoes from; I was just using them as examples of 
mottoes that could be related to the Houses. If I were ABLE to make 
up ORIGINAL mottoes, I wouldn't have asked the list to help me.

Finwitch wrote:

> What if Snape's a werewolf? 

Then he wouldn't have snarled "Don't ask me to fathom the way a 
werewolf's mind works," 

Alexander Lomsky wrote:

> But then it's most likely that the spell cast by Sirius and Remus
> on Pettigrew in PoA is Homorphus!

Yes!!!!

> That's what has always bothered me - if Peter was a coward, how on
> Earth could he hit Gryffindor?

I figure that Sirius's accusation that Peter had only hung out with 
the three so they could protect him was a false accusation made in 
anger. I figure that Peter had not been a coward as a child, but 
became a coward after leaving school as he saw more and more of the 
damage done by Voldemort, and that even then he didn't snivel until 
after spending years in rat form. 

Rebecca wrote:

> See, if we are to imagine Snape really liking these people, we
> have to have some reason to imagine them as likable. 

Excuse me, I don't imagine them as being likeable, and I have been 
assuming that Snape did like them, does feel awful about having 
betrayed them even tho' it was necessary to do for the HIGHEST 
reasons, and does explicitly compare himself to traitor Sirius Black 
(he didn't know until GoF that it was really Petter Pettigrew). I 
have not been assuming that antisocial Severus with the severe lack 
of social skills was a leader of Slytherin House or even of his own 
clique -- I have been thinking of him as liking them because they 
were first people to accept him as a friend, and them as accepting 
him at first for the sake of his help on homework and his knowledge 
of curses rather than from any real liking. I do give them of credit 
of coming to sincerely like him as they got to know him better.

My fanfic's at www.schnoogle.com under Catlady. I forget how long ago 
I first posted the first chapter (at another archive where it no 
longer is), but that chapter contains a long flashback of Snape being 
recruited into the Death Eaters and shorter pieces of his internal 
thoughts about his past such as: "Slytherins stick together, stick up 
for each other.  Snape's mouth twisted as he involuntarily reflected 
that that's what's wrong with having hearts: it led Slytherins to 
stick together all the way into Voldemort's circle, and the brain has 
to decide whom to betray: one's friends or the human species.  He 
hated remembering that he had been the traitor against his friends.  
He hated noticing the parallel between his own situation, betraying 
his friends for the sake of the Light Side, and James Potter's 
situation, betrayed by his own friend to the Dark Side, being killed 
despite all Severus's efforts to save him.  He hated himself for 
having been a traitor, and unsuccessful." 

Frodo Yoda wrote:

>I just got through watching the A&E Biography of JK Rowling. 

I also just now watched the TV show, after having read about it on 
list. Some wonderful person watched it during the holidays on the BBC 
and videotaped it and made screenshots of freeze-frames of JKR's 
drawings and her list of students in Harry's year and posted them in 
the Photos section of this egroup: 
http://photos.groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/lst in a folder 
called Harry Potter and Me. I am eternally grateful to that person. 

> Sean (from whom Ron borrows characteristics) was interviewed. JKR 
> said that like Ron he's "always there when you need him." 

Yes. I ABSOLUTELY do not understand how anyone who saw that scene can 
still think that Ron is going to turn evil. (Of course, I have NEVER 
believed that Ron will turn evil.) I mean, if Ron was going to turn 
evil, JKR would already know it, and politeness/kindness to her 
friend would prevent her from putting his name and face on TV with 
the statement that he is Ron, so that when Ron did turn evil in a 
book, her friend would be in a position like being on a Wanted 
poster: kids and fans would see him and shout: "How could you betray 
Harry like that, you git!" and that is a position that a friend does 
not put a friend into.

And they showed the Mirror of Erised scene from the movie soon after 
showing Sean, with the Lily actress and James actor who don't look 
like Lily and James (nor even like Lily and Danny). Someone had 
already pointed out on list that the Lily actress looks a bit like 
JKR herself. I just now noticed that the James actor looks a bit like 
Sean.

> 6) JKR showed some of her drawings of HP characters and scenes. 

Yes, and the pictures of Sprout and Weasleys show clearly what kind 
of robes JKR intended, not the ones in the movie.

> 7) She spoke of the volumes of material she has written for her
> own reference and enjoyment which will, sadly, never be published.

She has hinted in the past that she might publish it as Harry Potter 
Encyclopedia (or Hogwarts: A History) as the eighth book. If she'd 
rather get on to something new, maybe Lexicon Steve can persuade her 
to let him sort it out to publish as 'by JKR edited by Steve'. Okay, 
I can dream.

Elkins wrote:

> I don't think that Rowling's claim that Hogwarts is the only
> magical school in the British Isles meshes at all well with
> the *real* canon, truth be told. The books themselves strongly
> imply otherwise. 

YES!!! Thank you for the examples and support.

Drieux wrote:

> That there is no form of university education in Rowling's universe
> makes no sense to me; I wonder if this a means of sealing off the 
> series after Hogwarts. 

I can understand her statement only by assuming that she meant that 
the wizards don't have universities like Muggles now do, as giant 
factories for turning young men and women into potential employees. 
That the wizards cling to a more old-fashioned system in which people 
persuade advanced study for love of the subject rather than because a 
BA or BS is required to get a job in a totally unrelated field. That 
such study is generally persued as an apprenticeship under one master 
plus going to occasional guest lectures by others, rather than as a 
curriculum in an institution with many teachers. That, in line with 
my mention of 'apprenticeship', each subject has its own Guild (Guild 
in Latin is Collegium) which takes care of awarding its own degrees 
and managing its own finances and can not *imagine* being subject to 
any University Administration. 

I have spun out this theory to much greater length than is supported 
by canon, such as figuring out all the sources of funding for pure 
research (personal wealth, patronage from a wealthy wizard, a grant 
from MoM's Committee on Experimental Charms, a grant from the Museum 
of Magic, which is an institution that is not mentioned in canon but 
must exist), and what the degrees are (apprentice is like undergrad, 
journeyman is like graduate, master is the advanced degree which is 
required to be allowed to take on apprentices and provides the 
honorable title Magister or Magistra) and the requirements for the 
degrees (apprentice becomes journeyman by recommendation of hiser own 
Master and passing a written exam given by the Guild, journeyman 
becomes Master on recommendation of hiser own Master, approval by a 
specific Guild committee of a written dissertation reporting original 
research, passing an oral exam given by that committee, and a public 
dissertation defense for 24 hours straight). The degree of Doctor is 
bestowed by the Board of Directors of the Guild upon highly respected 
Masters as a surprise (they didn't apply for it or take a test), and 
only Doctors are allowed to be on the committees for approving 
dissertations and giving oral exams for Mastery candidates and some 
other stuff that I forget right now. But I did put in some hard 
feelings among the Masters of the Potions Guild because the ones who 
own shops and run factories pay most of the dues but the ones doing 
pure research are awarded most of the Doctorates.

I figure Madam Pomfrey was trained as a Healer by apprenticeship and 
advanced study in the Healers Guild. That being a practical rather 
than research guild, the 'masterpiece' presented by the candidate for 
Mastery is not a research dissertation but a case history (with 
witnesses) of a patient who was cured of something serious.