SHIP: R/H, H/H

[moongirlk]

No: HPFGUIDX 34060

Just a couple of quick things because I can't help myself.  

--- In HPforGrownups at y..., Penny & Bryce <pennylin at s...> wrote:
jchutney:
>   Our opinions of Hermione
> > diverge here.  I don't think Hermione is as controlled by her
> > emotions as Ron is.  Even in PoA, when Hermione hit Draco, she 
seemed
> > to be making a logical choice!  LOL!
> 
Penny:
> I guess our opinions do diverge as I didn't see her using logic 
when she 
> punched Draco, and I see little evidence of cool-headed logic in 
her 
> retorts to Ron during their argument.
<snip> 
> 
> When she made her remark in an argument, the "next Ball" isn't 
exactly 
> around the corner.  Even if she *was* inviting him to ask her out & 
was 
> interested in dating him *at that time,* who's to say she still 
would be 
> by the time of the "next" Ball?

I think we'd all agree that people have the capacity to change their 
minds, but that's not at all relevant to the point at hand, which is 
whether or not Hermione meant what she said *at the time that she 
made the statement*.  
I have too high of an opinion of her kindness *and* her self-
possession (she keeps her cool when she's facing death by poison or 
fire in PS/SS; I don't think it's deserted her here) to think that 
even in the heat of the moment she would knowingly say something that 
could have no other result than to hurt a friend, even if he has been 
hurtful to her.  I think she'd choose to be the bigger person - she's 
proven to me that she's more thoughtful than Ron is at this age, and 
I'm one of the biggest Ron-lovers on the list.  Maybe I'm just 
gullible enough that I think too highly of everyone, not just Ron.
 
> It also might not have been clear to 
> her what the real reason was (Ron's interest in her) until after 
her 
> head had cleared after their argument.  Maybe she went back up to 
her 
> room and thought "Oh, dear.  Oh, no."  :::shrugs::: It's possible.

This is possible, but unlikely in light of Harry's thought-comment at 
the end of the fight, and it completely contradicts your own previous 
statement that you were sure that she *did* know how he feels. I buy 
it as possible, but clearly neither of us believes it to be true.

>  If H were clear about
> > R's feeling and if they were unwelcome to her, surely she would 
try
> > and dispassionate and kind way to let him down.
> 
> And maybe she will.  In OOP.  :--)

I look forward to finding out - it will be interesting to see how all 
of the characters interactions progress and how JKR deals with the 
SHIP situation in the context of the much more important stuff she's 
got going on.

Anticipation is fun when you've got others to spar with in 
speculation!

kimberly