Moody was really Crouch, Jr.(And Ron's death?)

caes56 Caeser56 at si.rr.com
Sun Jan 27 06:25:46 UTC 2002


No: HPFGUIDX 34149

--- In HPforGrownups at y..., Katze <jdumas at k...> wrote:
> I don't think the gleam of triumph was a hint in the other 
direction,
> and here's why. When Crouch questioned Harry, he "hissed" when he 
found
> out that V had taken Harry's blood. So my logic is as follows. 
Crouch is
> on V's side, and must've have seen an problem with taking Harry's 
blood,
> why would he hiss otherwise? So if crouch is bad, and he thought 
it was
> bad for V to take Harry's blood, then Dumbledore's triumph must 
mean
> that it's good for his team that V took Harry's blood. If taking 
Harry's
> blood is actually bad for V then it explains both sides. And if D 
were
> really on the bad side, then he would've hissed too.
> 
> I also take it on faith that Rowling truly meant what she said...D 
is
> the epitome of good. 
> 
> Does that make sense?
> -Katze

I do agree, Katze, but i also wish to point out a VERY big point 
that i don't think you or anybody else recently touched upon about 
this: if you remember the past books- in this case, it comes out 
best in PS/SS- the curse V cast upon HP gave HP some of Voldemort's 
powers(only notable one so far is Parseltoungue) as well as some 
weird new Abilities(his scar's burns to warn him of danger). could 
it also be that when V took Harry's blood, that some of harry's 
personailty was transferred to LV? if this is the case, i see one 
important foreshadowing- that of JKR foreshadowing the way LV can 
finally, once and for all, be defeated- through the following method:

 Ok, so we assume LV must get some new powers- the first and most 
obvious being the ability to harm harry. the second- ok, well, maybe 
LV could be a good Seeker. but as a distant third- could we also 
assume that maybe LV has been made a bit...how do i say this? more 
inclined to do good? we can't say that LV would take on every trait 
of harry, but we know Harry is essentially a good person, maybe this 
will make LV be affected in some way. i think that this si the most 
likely outcome, and that is why DD 'glinted'- he knew LV would be 
less evil, and therefore easier to attack. of course, i could be 
wrong...


maybe? possibly? i don't know. but i think it could be a small 
foreshadowing of exactly how DD, HP, and company eventually overcome 
LV. 

also, on another topic, which i haven't seen mentioned lately and- 
though i've tried searching through the archives, i haven't noticed 
any mention of in the theories of which character will die and 
be 'horrible to write'- how about this ron death theory(however much 
i hate to say it, because i do like ron's character). we see a lot 
of foreboding and hints that JKR drops in her books- like the 
mention of Sirious Black's motorcycle in PS/SS. well, in PoA, during 
the Initial Divination class, Prof. Trelawney(did i spell it right? 
do i care?:-)) tells Pavarti Patil to 'beware a red-headed man'. 
this outright is not enough- but when she comes down to christmas 
dinner, she mentions that if 13 people sit at a table, the first to 
rise will be the first to die. well, harry and ron get up both 
around the same time- and they never mention which exactly got up 
first. now we can assume, i think, that if harry dies it won't be 
until book 7- but what is ron was the first to rise? i know PT's 
predictions are supposed to be jokes- but even her regular 
predictions- not the blank stare prediction in PoA- have come true
(with the exception of Harry's death). the Oct 16th prediction, 
the "around easter one of our number will leave forever" prediction, 
and the best one i think- the predicition of neville dropping two 
tea glasses. i know- she says he will drop a pink one, but then to 
take a blue one because she likes the pink one more- but why ask him 
to take a blue one unless he was going to drop it again?

i'd like to see what you think, and i hope i haven't repeated 
anything in this post!

-Vin






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