Bagman / Witchy Fertility
catlady_de_los_angeles
catlady at wicca.net
Wed Jan 30 07:55:31 UTC 2002
No: HPFGUIDX 34293
Eloise edblanning wrote:
> On Saturday evening my husband referred to someone as a 'bagman',
> using it not in its dictionary definition travelling salesman),
> but as slang, for a lackey, one who merely carries another's bag.
The only meaning I know for 'bagman' is the person who carries the
cash for a criminal enterprise. One example, in a protection racket
(in case anyone doesn't know, that is when the organized crime
boss tells people to pay him this much money every month and then
he won't burn down their business, murder them, etc), the bagman goes
around to all the 'customers' every month to collect the money from
them. Another example, when the crime boss bribes a politician, the
crime boss's bagman carries the money to some place where the
politician's bagman picks it up.
But my reaction to encountering Ludo Bagman by reading GoF was to
wonder if this was a hint that he would be 'left holding the bag'.
Jo Ellen Rober wrote:
> I just have to laugh at this and "sigh"....poor,poor Molly. I don't
> remember reading any canon based text to verify this. If they
> mention the parents' age of the wizard children at all, they are in
> their twenties when they procreate. If this were indeed the case,
> then the population ratio of muggle/wizards would soon be about
> equal because the wizard fecundity would be twice as long, assuming
> no wizarding birth control measures were used and you did not
> factor in the difference in death rates between the two populations.
It seems pretty clear to me that wizarding birth control IS being
used. All these kids in school, surely we would have heard of a lot
more siblings among the fellow students if parents typically had a
baby a year or even a baby every two years.
When Molly visits Harry at Hogwarts during GoF, she tells anecdotes
of the gamekeeper before Hagrid, a man named Ogg. That SOUNDS like
she was at school more than 50 years ago, before the CoS flashback of
Tom Riddle framing Hagrid for opening the Chamber of Secrets and
getting him expelled, after which Dumbledore kept Hagrid on as
gamekeeper. She would be at least 68 in GoF if she left Hogwarts
before Hagrid became gamekeeper, and at least 62 if Ogg was there
only for the first part of her first year. So people on the list made
up theories about how a thirteen (or fourteen) year old Hagrid
couldn't have just become gamekeeper in charge, he must have started
as assisstant to the previous gamekeeper (Ogg).
But then JKR said in an interview that wizards live longer than
Muggles, Dumbledore is 150 and McGonagall is 'a spritely 70'. If
McGonagall, whose hair is still black, is 70, there's no reason that
Molly can't be 70 as well. If Molly is 70 the same year that her
youngest (Ginny) is 13 (during GoF, which was being publicised by
that interview), subtraction says she was 57 when Ginny was born.
[It depends on what the meaning of 'is' is: Dumbledore 'is' 150
when? In the year 2000 when the interview was given, in the year 2002
which is now, in 1994-5 during GoF which was being publicised by that
interview, in 1991-2 during the first book?)
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