Laughing Sirius;'Hagrid death';Silver Hand;Lucifer

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--- In HPforGrownups at y..., mrgrrrargh at a... wrote:
> I never was quite sure -- maybe I missed the explanation in the 
book -- why 
> Sirius was laughing hysterically after Peter blew up the street 
full of 
> Muggles and turned into a rat. Anyone know?
> 
> -SpyGameFan

    The text(or canon, if you prefer) never clearly states, or for 
that matter, gives any reason at all for Sirius' laughter. I've 
looked into this a bit as well, and we can only theorize. I, for 
one, seeing how Sirious turned out(that is, actually a good person), 
do not think it any sign of evil. Rather, what I think is along the 
more amusing lines- I think that after all the bickering about which 
of the Marauders was the spy, and finding out that it was Pettigrew, 
and that pettigrew set him up perfectly to fall for the crime, I 
think that all of this probably just blew his mind, and when he 
peiced everythign together just laughed at it for the sake of 
laughing- I'm sure we've all been in or met someone in the position 
that when things go so horribly wrong that for no apparent reason 
they burst out laughing. I know I have- on a road trip with friends 
down to Florida, in short, the car we were in must have broken down 
three times on the way there, and then someone left the lights on in 
the car at the hotel. anyway, I just cracked. I think it's a similar 
case- he was blaming Lupin the whole time, thinking that Peter 
couldn't have managed it, but it was staring him in the face. 



------------Uncmark writes:
>The only basis for Hagrid's death was the Rosie O'Donnell show with 
>the movie cast. Richard Harris said he was signed on for Dumbledore 
>in all the movies, but Robbie Coltrane said he wasn't.

     I was reading a few of the Robbie Coltrane interviews, and i 
want to point out two things to people to quell the "Hagrid 
Death"Theorists and hopefuls(personally, I like the character.) 
First and foremost- Coltrane, according to all the interviews i've 
read- is signed definently for only the first two movies, and we all 
know that Hagrid doesn't die in POA or GOF. Second, because of the 
first reason, we can safely assume(in fact, Coltrane also states it) 
that it has nothing to do with the character, but rather, Coltrane's 
desire NOT to get typecast as Hagrid, and as such he has stated that 
he really doesn't want to do more than two, but also isn't totally 
closed to the idea. So, Hagrid is NOT going to die because of any 
deal with Coltrane. one of the interviews is here:
http://www.scifi.com/scifiwire/art-main.html?2001-11/16/13.00.film

from Sci-fi Wire, although I read one earlier where Coltrane talks 
about the typecasting problem. anyways, that will hopefully end that.

---Uncmark also wrote-----:
>As far as deaths, we had Cedric and Crouch in Goblet of Fire. If we 
>have a big battle with Order of the Phoenix, I could see Lupin 
>falling against Wormtail. (Werewolf falls to silver hand.)

     I don't mean to pick on ya, uncmark- but I don't think this 
will happen either, and here's the simple reason: JKR is NOT 
following general Lore here. by legends(some of them anyways), 
werewolves don't need to be killed nessecarily by silver, just 
harmed enough to have the silver run in their veins, and this is in 
many stories and movies as well the method of 'killing' a werewolf 
but letting the person live- and I don't think that this would be 
the case in JKR's work, simply because if it were that simple why 
wouldn't someone have already done that to him? and even if it were 
that simple in terms of using silver to kill a werewolf, both the 
human and were forms, why wouldn't anybody have attempted it on him? 
I think an event or events like that would have at least been 
mentioned(if not also foreshadowed) by JKR if that were the case. we 
all should remember that while JKR takes names of folklore beasts 
and many other things, they are specifically hers and changed to fit 
her story, as in the case of dragons, which in almost any lore
(especially chinese history) are extremely intelligent creatures who 
live for thousands of years and like to toy with humans.



Suki Jones Wrote:---------------------

.
>I think that Lucius is good and Draco is bad.
>Why? Well, firstly;...
>Lucius, on the other hand, means "light".
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As "Amanda Snape" already stated, Lucifer, of which lucius is(or 
seems to be) a derivative of, is the name for Satan and 
means "Lightbearer". But Satan was also, at some point, the most 
trusted Right hand of God. (I hate getting overtly religious, due to 
the amount of freaky-level fanatics who can't stop saying god in 
every sentence). I think that this is more a hint of his character's 
past- either that he was once a very trusted person before becoming 
a DE(he does come from a long line of pureblood wizarding families 
with a lot of influence) and that full story hasn't been told yet, 
or it could foreshadow how badly Fudge could, well, Fudge his job- 
in that he refused to believe Harry at the end of GOF that Lucius 
was a member of the DE's returning to Voldemort. To see my 
reference, see "The parting of the ways" in GOF, page 706 in the 
American print(i don't know if it is the same page in others). Fudge 
is clearly offended even at the mention of LV, let alone his 
followers, and it could be a comparison to Satan to say that Lucious 
Malfoy is trusted by Fudge, but wants instead to take his job. 

    Well, those are my thoughts, any replies?

---Vin