Still Crouch and not Moody/Imperius plot hole (Was: Secular Universes)
blpurdom
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Thu Jan 31 15:18:54 UTC 2002
No: HPFGUIDX 34389
--- In HPforGrownups at y..., "Chris Parnell" <chspnll at p...> wrote:
> Harry Potter and co are dealing with a reality that is permeated
> with the workings of spirit, albeit via wands. What is gradually
> happening and it may spread, as Mad Eye was trying to teach in
> DADA, that the real doer or force or power of magic and
> witchcraft is the self, which lies within. Witness Mad Eye trying
> to teach students in DADA to resist the Imperius Curse by force of
> their mind and will, elements of that inner self.
::sigh:: That would be all well and good if it really WERE Moody
teaching them this. But we must remember that it was Barty Crouch,
Jr., and almost everything he did had the purpose of helping Harry
to win the Triwizard Tournament so that he would be the one to touch
the cup and be transported to Voldemort. That's why he was nice to
Neville and gave him the book on Mediterranean water plants. That's
why he prodded Harry to figure out to use his flying to get past the
dragon.
The Imperius lesson is the one thing which Crouch did which doesn't
add up. (That's why I wrote "almost everything.") Why should he
want Harry--or any of the students--to be able to resist Imperius?
The other things he did potentially contributed to Harry winning the
Tournament; unless one of the other Champions cursed Harry (and Krum
only cursed Cedric when HE was placed under Imperius by Crouch) this
wouldn't be a necessary part of his training. In fact, because he
learned to resist Imperius, Harry angered Voldemort in the
graveyard. (Too bad Harry didn't yet know that Moody was really
Crouch, Voldemort's servant, so he could have told Voldemort what a
stupid thing his star Death Eater did.)
The only possibility that comes to mind is that Crouch wanted to
guarantee that Harry COULDN'T overcome Imperius, and the only way he
could find out one way or the other was to incorporate it into a
lesson. Of course, once he learned that Harry was the only one who
came even close to overcoming it completely on the first try, he had
no choice but to continue with the lesson, the result being that
Harry ended up mastering the resistance. You'd think, though, that
after that, Crouch would have contacted Pettigrew to tell him to
tell Voldemort not to bother with the Imperius when he confronted
Harry, because it would be pointless. (Unless, again, he didn't
want to admit to what a stupid thing he did.)
I have to say, though, even given my rather insane ability to play
devil's advocate for Crouch and concoct the above excuse for him, I
think that JKR didn't think of this possibility and the Imperius
lesson is really just a big ole plot hole. During the time he was
under Veritaserum, Crouch outlined his entire plan for Harry and
Dumbledore. Teaching Harry to overcome Imperius wasn't part of the
plan he discussed.
Harry needed to learn to overcome Imperius to confront Voldemort,
and this is how he learned. There's no logical reason for Crouch to
do this. I doubt it would even be in character for the real Moody,
so he doesn't have that excuse either. JKR quite simply needed for
Harry to learn to do this and she failed to come up with a plausible
rationale for it.
--Barb
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