Religion in the Potterverse
pippin_999
foxmoth at qnet.com
Tue Jul 2 20:50:22 UTC 2002
No: HPFGUIDX 40711
Religion and the Potterverse
Bluesqueak said:
>>A lot of people have pointed out that the UK is very secular and
that JKR's use of Christmas and Easter holidays does not imply
active Christian observance [both true]. <<
It's important to remember that the division between religious
and secular is itself the product of a Christian culture. Since
other traditions don't make the distinction between secular and
non-secular observance, it can be hard for non-Christians to
understand why a Christian would consider a Christmas feast a
non-religious occasion.
People nowadays use "secular" to mean "devoid of religious
associations" but this was not originally the case. "Secular" at
the time when Hogwarts was founded simply meant "not
administered by the clergy". Towns, guilds, schools, courts,
etc. could receive their operating authority from the King rather
than from a bishop. This did not make them open or welcoming
to non-Christians. Their charters, though not given by a religious
authority, would refer to Christian concepts such as the Virgin or
the Trinity and participation would require the taking of a
Christian oath. For example, the requirement to take a Christian
oath in order to be seated in the British Parliament was not
modified until 1858--that's within living memory for wizards.
If the wizards were so liberal in the year 1000 as to think
religious affiliation a purely private matter, that alone would be
radical enough to explain their persecution by the Muggles of the
time.
Leon:
>>Exodus 22:17 is the "witch" line in this case. It's also important
to note that it falls in between two different bans on sexual
behavior (22:16 being a punishment for lying with a virgin if you
didn't marry her and 22:18 being
the aforementioned livestock issue.). This is important only
because they
key foci seem to be divination (also appearing in this section)
and sexual temptation. Not levitation, unlocking doors, etc.
While I am not, in any way, trying to invalidate the text of the Torah
(bible, old testiment, pentateuch, etc), even as it relates to HP;
nor am Itrying to shoehorn a RL religious text into the context of
the Potterverse:still I wanted to clarify that JKR has not to
overstepped the boundaries of even that sacred ban. <<
The interpretation of the biblical prohibition against witchcraft
has been fluid in Jewish practice, so it's difficult to say whether
Rowling's witches and wizards would violate it or not. The
Talmud contains many charms and incantations which were
later forbidden because the Rabbis decided the correct way of
using them was no longer known. In the Potterverse,
presumably, this knowledge has been preserved.
On the other hand, experimentation in order to discover the
properties of natural substances was once forbidden as
witchcraft but is now allowed. It's possible that the Jewish
wizarding community has re-interpreted the law as well. The
biblical prohibition might be presumed to apply only to dark
magic using forbidden ingredients such as the blood of human
beings, or to summoning ghosts, which Potterverse wizards
never do.
However, the fact that Quidditch games at Hogwarts are
scheduled on Saturday and never on Sunday leads me to think
that the religious observances that British wizards have fallen
away from are Christian ones.
Pippin
information about Judaism and magic is from Trachtenburg's
"Jewish Magic and Superstition"
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